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#1 Delhommey

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:34 PM

2007

Board favorite: Laron Landry (Oh dear God) followed by Patrick Willis.

Hurney pick: Jon Beason

Verdict: Hurney in any scenario. Getting Landry would have involved trading up which would have made it even more of a disaster. Willis is obviously no slouch, but Beason's lower salary and the fact we picked up Kalil as well makes this still be a no brainer.

Reason Hurney will be lambasted: WE COULD HAVE HAD REVIS!!!!

2008

Board favorite: Ryan Clady/Chris Williams/Jeff Otah, Brandon Albert, Derrick Harvey (a lot of us realized it was dumb back then), Jonathan Stewart as a dark horse.

Hurney pick: Jon Stewart

Verdict: Mixed. You can't argue with the talent, only what it took to get it and most of the boards picks turned out pretty good as well. The passion some argued with for us to take Harvey still makes me chuckle, as does the fact Jacksonville gave up so much to get him.

Reason why Hurney will be lambasted: WE GAVE UP OUR FIRST!!!!

2009

Board Favorite: All over the shop. Our pick was so low, nobody really knew where it was going to go. Lots of talk of interior linemen (Levitre, Unger) and DT's (Brace, Moala, Marks) with the occasional Pat White argument.

Hurney Pick: Everette Brown

Verdict: Who knows? Brown at least showed promise, and if Peppers walks, we're not sunk, but it will certainly stink sitting on the sidelines for what many are calling the best first round in almost 30 years. Certainly no one ballyhooed on this board has stood out

Reason why Hurney will be lambasted: WE GAVE UP OUR FIRST!!!!

#2 Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 02:18 PM

So true..

#3 R0CKnR0LLA

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 03:33 PM

2008 I wanted to trade up two spots ahead of Denver to get Clady. Then take Rice or Forte in the 2nd. 3rd I wanted either DaJuan Morgan or Thomas DeCoud for safety, not Godfrey.

Would have been nice to keep our 1st rounder the next year. Then in 2009 we use the 28th overall on Everette Brown and we still have our first this year. And I'd take Sean Smith over Martin in the 2nd.

Our drafts have been really good, I haven't had many complaints. And there's plenty of good late round guys I missed on that they took.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 06:57 PM

I liked Forte and Rice, but yeah, I was of a similar mind.

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 11:47 PM

Picks round 2 thru 7 is where Hurney would be earning his paycheck.

2 2009 11 43 Everette Brown DE Florida State
2009 27 59 Sherrod Martin DB Troy State
2007 13 45 Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
2007 27 59 Ryan Kalil C USC

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3 2009 29 93 Corvey Irvin DT Georgia
2008 4 67 Charles Godfrey DB Iowa
2008 11 74 Dan Connor LB Penn State
2007 20 83 Charles Johnson DE Georgia


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4 2009 11 111 Mike Goodson RB Texas A&M
2009 28 128 Tony Fiammetta RB Syracuse
2007 19 118 Ryne Robinson WR Miami (OH)

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5 2009 27 163 Duke Robinson T Oklahoma
2008 6 141 Gary Barnidge TE Louisville
2007 18 155 Dante Rosario TE Oregon
2007 27 164 Tim Shaw LB Penn State

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6 2008 15 181 Nick Hayden DT Wisconsin

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7 2009 7 216 Captain Munnerlyn DB South Carolina
2008 14 221 Hilee Taylor LB North Carolina
2008 34 241 Geoff Schwartz T Oregon
2008 43 250 Mackenzy Bernadeau G Bentley
2007 16 226 C.J. Wilson DB Baylor

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Ouch, how many starters are in that list?







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Edited by Kevin Greene, 20 February 2010 - 11:52 PM.


#6 Frash Brastard

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 04:05 AM

what a broad trifling piece of malignant counter critique

#7 jramsey4

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 08:46 AM

Picks round 2 thru 7 is where Hurney would be earning his paycheck.

2 2009 11 43 Everette Brown DE Florida State
2009 27 59 Sherrod Martin DB Troy State
2007 13 45 Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
2007 27 59 Ryan Kalil C USC

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3 2009 29 93 Corvey Irvin DT Georgia
2008 4 67 Charles Godfrey DB Iowa
2008 11 74 Dan Connor LB Penn State
2007 20 83 Charles Johnson DE Georgia


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4 2009 11 111 Mike Goodson RB Texas A&M
2009 28 128 Tony Fiammetta RB Syracuse
2007 19 118 Ryne Robinson WR Miami (OH)

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5 2009 27 163 Duke Robinson T Oklahoma
2008 6 141 Gary Barnidge TE Louisville
2007 18 155 Dante Rosario TE Oregon
2007 27 164 Tim Shaw LB Penn State

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6 2008 15 181 Nick Hayden DT Wisconsin

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7 2009 7 216 Captain Munnerlyn DB South Carolina
2008 14 221 Hilee Taylor LB North Carolina
2008 34 241 Geoff Schwartz T Oregon
2008 43 250 Mackenzy Bernadeau G Bentley
2007 16 226 C.J. Wilson DB Baylor

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Ouch, how many starters are in that list?







.


Compared to my favorite GM candidate director of college scouting, Marc Ross. Whos been with Giants since 07 the year of the DRAFT (Best draft by one team in a while).

Aaron Ross:
2007: 42 Tkls 35 Solo Tkls, 9 Pass Deflected and 3 INTs
2008: 52 tkls 48 Solo Tkls, 8 PD and 3 INTs
2009: Injuried

Steve Smith:
2007: 8 rec 63 yards
2008: 57 rec 574 yds 1 td
2009: 1220 yards 7 tds

Jay Alford:
2007: Nothing Really
2008: 15 tkls and 2.5 sacks
2009: IR

Zak Deossie: Backup LS/LB and Special teams (good special teamer

Kevin Boss:
2007: 9 rec 118 yds 2 tds (huge post season)
2008: 33 rec 384 yds 6tds
2009: 42 rec 567 yds 5 tds

Adam Koets: Backup T/G

Michael Johnson:
2007: 25 tkls 23 solo 2 PD
2008: 72 tkls 4 PD 2 INT
2009: 59 tkls 46 solos 1 sack 4 PD 1 int

Amhad Bradshaw: (Got him in the 7th, nice)
2007: 23 att 190 yds 1 tds
2008: 67atts 355 yds 1 td
2009: 163 atts 778 yds 7 tds


His 2008 Draft

Kenny Phillips: 32nd overall Pick (Defense fell apart after his injury this year)

2008: 67 tkls 55 solos 5 PD 1 Int
2009: 13 tkls 9 solos 2 ints 2 PD (IR)

Terrell Thomas: 63rd Pick

2008: 45 tkls 39 solos 4 PD 1 int
2009: 85 Tkls 14 solo 13 PD 5 Ints 1 FF

Mario Mannaningham: 95th Pick:

2008: 4 rec 26 yds
2009: 57 rec 882 yds 5 tds

The Rest have been Decent depth


You got to admit this guy is good 7 starters (8 if you include Bradshaw) in 2 drafts is impressive as hell.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 09:32 AM

Very good thread. For the most part, I've been impressed with Hurney's drafts. Our first round picks have been very solid under him. And he's found some steals in the later rounds.

But yeah, he will have to earn some $$$ during this draft, without any first round picks.

#9 Kevin Greene

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 12:27 PM

what a broad trifling piece of malignant counter critique





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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:13 PM

Picks round 2 thru 7 is where Hurney would be earning his paycheck.

2 2009 11 43 Everette Brown DE Florida State
2009 27 59 Sherrod Martin DB Troy State
2007 13 45 Dwayne Jarrett WR USC
2007 27 59 Ryan Kalil C USC

...

3 2009 29 93 Corvey Irvin DT Georgia
2008 4 67 Charles Godfrey DB Iowa
2008 11 74 Dan Connor LB Penn State
2007 20 83 Charles Johnson DE Georgia


...

4 2009 11 111 Mike Goodson RB Texas A&M
2009 28 128 Tony Fiammetta RB Syracuse
2007 19 118 Ryne Robinson WR Miami (OH)

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5 2009 27 163 Duke Robinson T Oklahoma
2008 6 141 Gary Barnidge TE Louisville
2007 18 155 Dante Rosario TE Oregon
2007 27 164 Tim Shaw LB Penn State

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6 2008 15 181 Nick Hayden DT Wisconsin

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7 2009 7 216 Captain Munnerlyn DB South Carolina
2008 14 221 Hilee Taylor LB North Carolina
2008 34 241 Geoff Schwartz T Oregon
2008 43 250 Mackenzy Bernadeau G Bentley
2007 16 226 C.J. Wilson DB Baylor

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Ouch, how many starters are in that list?


12 of those players have started and several on this list will be starters next year.

Hurney's been better than average, not astounding. If you look he's done best in the first and last rounds respectively.


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