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Source says Panthers will seek extension with DeAngelo Williams


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#85 Swarly

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 08:38 PM

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Injuries happen in football. Are we supposed to never give out long-term contracts because there is a chance that player could be injured? If Matt Moore has a pro bowl season next year should we not lock him up long term because there is a chance he could injure his arm the next year and never be the same?

There are ways to set up contracts that protects the team if something like that were to happen. You could load it with incentives, such as if he gets over 1200 yards with 250 carries he gets a big bonus, etc.

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 08:46 PM

We should keep both and not even consider trading for draft picks. These guys are the heart and soul of our offense.

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 08:58 PM

Injuries happen in football.


yes but the discrepancy in the risk of injuries from position to position is sizable.

Are we supposed to never give out long-term contracts because there is a chance that player could be injured?


you know i read both my posts in this thread 3 or 4 times and i haven't found any part where i insinuate we shouldn't give out long term deals due to injury risk in general. Going back to my example, see, if by the time that injury happens, the more we've paid DeAngelo in the beginning of the deal, the less money we'll owe farther into his contract, which, as opposed to giving him a flat salary for the entire deal, would leave us in a more advantageous position if such an injury were to happen.

If Matt Moore has a pro bowl season next year should we not lock him up long term because there is a chance he could injure his arm the next year and never be the same?


Nice apple. Hey, I brought an orange. Let's compare the two

There are ways to set up contracts that protects the team if something like that were to happen. You could load it with incentives, such as if he gets over 1200 yards with 250 carries he gets a big bonus, etc.


yes and I just proposed one of those "ways", which was pay him most of his money when he's producing so, that way, when he's older, we'll owe him less of the same kind of deal.

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:00 PM

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#89 Cracka McNasty

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:46 PM

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 12:43 PM

as someone has already said, the RB's that are fading out around age 30 are the ones who have been workhorses since they entered the league.

for example, LT has 2880 career rushing attempts and was averaging well over 300 carries a season every year until 2008.(this isn't including him as a receiver, he also has over 500 receptions.) it's obvious why his production has gone down. I'd say LT started losing a step at around 2200 carries.

DeAngelo has 754 carries, and hasn't had a season over 273 carries. He's hardly got any mileage, LT had that much by his 3rd season :P


KP I agree with you to a point....

You are talking about number of carries, which is a good thing to look at, but you also have to look at age.

RB's no matter the number of carries really start to go downhill at the 30 year old mark, there are only a handful of exceptions. IMO the number of carries can have an effect on how long a RB will last, but it won't really extend his career. The same can be said for tackles, D linemen, etc....

A 30 year old NFL player, outside of Kicker and QB is most likely losing/has lost quite a few steps. Sadly D Will is not an exception.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 01:43 PM

Fox and Hurney sticking to what they do...draft players and keep them for the duration of their productive careers. The choices with Deangelo were to trade him this year or sign him this year. There is no way we could let him go into next year without an extension.

Good move by us if we can get it done.