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Agreed. Except they were mostly in Holland's favor. De Jong should have been straight red carded and Van Bommel could have had 4 or 5 yellows.

can't argue the straight red...there were plenty of opportunties to card more Spaniards as well!

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Agreed. Except they were mostly in Holland's favor. De Jong should have been straight red carded and Van Bommel could have had 4 or 5 yellows.

Agreed. Bottom line, Holland didn't deserve to win playing the way it did. De Jonge's only intent on that play with his Mr. Miyagi kick was to put Alonso in cardiac arrest. Van Bommel was out for blood. It was like they had a pre-match bet seeing who could draw more bookings.

Clearly, the Dutch game plan was to beat the hell out of Spain, literally, hope that they could get away with it, and strike (no pun intended) on a counter attack with Robben getting behind the defense and getting a cheap goal. Robben had the chance twice, but Casillas stoned him both times. Spain was clearly the better team, and it won.

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and thats a wrap folks

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most definitely onside!

when he was offside he had no part in the play and it was correctly not blown down...was a good goal for sure.

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The Dutch showed that "total voetbal" now means they'll do totally anything to win.

I came into the game somewhat sympathetic to both teams and aware that Holland wanted to make it chippy, but by the second half, seeing that the Dutch midfield was manned by the Hanson brothers and Eric Cantona's temper, I was 100% for Barça - I mean, Spain.

The Spanish very much felt the Netherlands belonged in that game while the Dutch didn't. It would have been a much better game if the inverse were true.

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He was onside. Not one person in the bar I was in this morning thought otherwise. The Dutch changed their tactics after watching the Hermans giving the Spainish to much respect.

The irony for me was that Robben, well known diver that he is when he broke through the second time and was having his shirt ripped off him didn't go to ground. Go figure

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