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Stick with Moore! The season is NOT over~


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#1 Cat Fanboy

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:01 PM

Before you yell at me...hear me out.

We are 0-2. That is not the end of the season. How many expected us to go 14-2?? Most people had the NYG as a loss. Tampa Bay didn't look near as bad as they had for the last three years. Give Josh some credit - he played well.
Minnesota AND Dallas is 0-2 also.

Lots of people asking what is wrong. What IS wrong is that teams are making the QB beat them and stopping the run. That's why we aren't running because teams are loading the box. So why cant our QB beat them? Hopefully that is what our coaches work on this week. From my perspective:

1. QB isn't making decisions fast enough.
2. Oline needs to give him 1-2 more seconds.
3. Play calling. THIS game wasn't as bad (thanks Davidson), BUT we NEED more screens. SHORT FAST passes to Smith, Dwill, Jstew. Build confidence and get our playmakers in the open field.
4. Maybe its just the freaky cameras but it LOOKS like the QB follows his target from beginning to end. No looking around, no hand pumps...QB is making it easy to read.

Now, if you agree with these are the problems we are facing - then what reasons do we think Clausen is going to be better then Moore? Neither one seems mobile, Moore has the bigger arm (I think).

On defense our linebackers are busting tail. If we can get more pressure on their QB's we wont keep having our DB's getting burned.

I think our problems are small and can be overcome. The season isn't over. 1 is an accident, 2 is a trend, 3 is a problem....we take out the Bungles next week and we can settle down. I think the Bengals are better then both the Giants AND the Buc's so we can stop this before we do have a problem.


The time to put check down Clausen in is when the season is over.

#2 Squirrel

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:04 PM

While I agree in principal I dont think it would happen. Moore should get to play another game just to prove himself. But no way he should start after week 3 if he still sucks.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:07 PM

I'm not a big fan of putting Clausen in this early. Said that plenty.

But with that said, Moore hasn't really shown much this season to indicate he deserves loyalty.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:10 PM

While I agree in principal I dont think it would happen. Moore should get to play another game just to prove himself. But no way he should start after week 3 if he still sucks.

^This.

#5 Rononoa3000

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:12 PM

Moore's facial hair is unkempt, we need a man that grooms!!! Clawesome is that man.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:12 PM

Yeah, I hate it. I have been supporting Moore all summer, but he is just not very good. And just the little we saw from Clausen today, made me more of a believer in him. He might just have the huge upside that this team needs. Sure he will make mistakes, but I think he will get better and better all year. If there is a chance to save the season, now is the time to do it before all is lost.

#7 PhillyB

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:12 PM

get a WR2 that's not a big rock wearing a jersey and moore will look much, much better. an offensive line that can block would be nice too.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:13 PM

There is no way in hell that Fox can trot Moore back out there next Sunday at home after the atrocious performance he has handed in the past 2 weeks. He will get booed off the field after his first incomplete pass.

I dont see any other option but to start Clausen next week.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:14 PM

Moore sucks. There is a reason Fox stuck with Delhome so long last season. Poor decision making. The problem is Clausen can't do much better......yet.

Stick with Moore if you can and let Jimmy learn. Then next year get an offensive mind in Carolina and either do something with Jimmy or find someone else. Fox is gone win or lose.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:15 PM

I would agree with you had not we put Clausen in for Matt...he's done

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:16 PM

Moore is too scared to throw the ball. He has stage fright.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:17 PM

1. QB isn't making decisions fast enough.
2. Oline needs to give him 1-2 more seconds.
3. Play calling. THIS game wasn't as bad (thanks Davidson), BUT we NEED more screens. SHORT FAST passes to Smith, Dwill, Jstew. Build confidence and get our playmakers in the open field.
4. Maybe its just the freaky cameras but it LOOKS like the QB follows his target from beginning to end. No looking around, no hand pumps...QB is making it easy to read.

On defense our linebackers are busting tail. If we can get more pressure on their QB's we wont keep having our DB's getting burned.


1. Not something you can simply make happen overnight. That junk is in Moore's head.

2. I agree 100%.

3. Possibly, but passing more takes away from Fox's philosophy. We run to set up a first down pass. That won't change unless Fox agrees to let Davidson take control. Like...3-3 on 4th Down today? That's not Fox.

4. No camera trickery, that's straight up Moore. He's like a BAD Madden player. He picks his play, sees the WR routes, decides who to pass it to, and presses the pass button.

- Our front 4 is not good enough. That's the simple truth. Maybe if we start Hardy we can get something going. But Johnson is crap, Brown is too small to be effective an entire game and our DTs are nothing special. We are making our LBs do all the work and they are getting too tired.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:19 PM

Moore sucks. There is a reason Fox stuck with Delhome so long last season. Poor decision making. The problem is Clausen can't do much better......yet.

Stick with Moore if you can and let Jimmy learn. Then next year get an offensive mind in Carolina and either do something with Jimmy or find someone else. Fox is gone win or lose.


Jimmy can't learn from a clipboard.

#14 Kral

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:20 PM

Johnson did well enough against the blockers but he was to slow and/or was using poor technique when it came time to sack Freeman.

#15 blak-n-blu

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:21 PM

@Cat Fanboy:
You are truely delusional.


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