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Because Peppers Made Known That He Wants Out..U Will Not Get 1st or 2nd picks

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If I were a fan, I would be mad at Peppers for that reason alone. This puts the Panthers at a disadvantage unless they decide to give Peppers exactly what he wants and he resigns.

Otherwise- I doubt seriously if Peppers garner a high 2nd rd pick...maybe a team with a lower 2nd pick, but definitely not a 1st rounder. Many GMs will force Carolina's hand and make your GM make a move.

IMHO- Peppers was wrong for annoucing his displeasure with the Panthers. He should have kept it in-house and allowed the Panthers to swing a 1st rder for him since he said that he didn't want to leave the team in a bind; however, it seems like he did just the opposite with his latest announcement.

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are you not a fan?

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Yeah, I agree, that didn't help matters. But I still think we'll be able to get a good deal. The fact is, a lot of teams will jump at the chance to land Peppers, and they'll be bidding against each other. I still think we get minimum a first rounder out of this.

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are you not a fan?

I don't dislike the Panthers, but I'm not their no#1 fan either. But that's beside the point- I was just looking at the situation from an objective view with no dog in the fight.

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can we ban this troll yet?

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Oh I think we get good value for Pep. I can see Philly, Houston, Oakland, Denver, and St. Louis all throwing offers at Carolina for him.

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That's exactly what I'm thinking! WTF did he say "I want to do what's best for myself AND The Panthers organization." If he wasn't going to...he's the only f*cking potential free agent thus far that I've heard say I want out. (and the last one I'd expect to.)

Normally atheletes just say I'll do what's best for me and my family...not the franchise also. SO I JUST KNEW we were going to get it done....boy did I lie to myself.

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we get a 1st rounder for him. It's still going to be difficult for the team to sign gross and franchise Peppers to trade him.

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Yeah, I agree, that didn't help matters. But I still think we'll be able to get a good deal. The fact is, a lot of teams will jump at the chance to land Peppers, and they'll be bidding against each other. I still think we get minimum a first rounder out of this.

I'm not saying that Peppers isn't a good player, but you (Panthers) are not going to get a 1st rounder for him. He's not a dominate player who consistently takes over a game like a Reed, Suggs, Haynesworth, J Allen, Abraham and so forth. Also, the teams that are probably able to work out the best deals ( Detroit, Oak, KC, Seattle) will need for Peppers to sign a long -term deal. Also, teams will look at his age. Unlike J Allen, Peppers will be 29 this year, Allen was only 24. Its a huge difference.

Hence, the last thing another team wants, whose willing to trade with the Panthers, is a disgruntle player. All of these things and more will be taken into consideration.

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Oh I think we get good value for Pep. I can see Philly, Houston, Oakland, Denver, and St. Louis all throwing offers at Carolina for him.

I beleive the Panthers can get value, but it won't be what you think and definitely not a 1st rounder. Sorry. The Panthers, or shall I say Peppers, tipped your hand and for that you have lost a lot of leverage.

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can we ban this troll yet?
yeah, that. This douchebag is getting off on this poo.

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The phrase is tipped your hand...but you can tip your hat if you want and kindly piss off.

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a first round is what you get for a 4 time pro bowler de.

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If a washed up, injured, and dancing with the stars candidate Jason Taylor is worth a 2nd and a 6th, then Peppers is worth a 1st and a 3rd easy.

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Wanna bet we get at least a 1st rounder. You're not making any sense. Teams that need to their line or defense to improve, will do what they have to get him. Aint paying attention to all that extra crap you speaking of. We wont let him go for nothing else

This is a business. Teams want to win

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We'll get a 1st for him if we actually Franchise him. Which because of peps move is looking less and less likely if we plan on keeping gross.

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Dude why are you on our message board? Honestly, go to your own team's respective message board and let people who know what they're talking about do exactly that.

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Right because Jared Allen saying that he desperately wanted out of KC had a huge impact on their compensation...

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You guys real get worked up over someone saying that Peppers desire to get out of Charlotte may sabotage the value we may get in a trade. A troll this does not make.

If Peppers is saying he does not want to play here teams will hold back and give us some shoddy offers and make these negotiations difficult. Have we forgot about Kris Jenkins?? We got a third round pick for him.

Of course I think we will get a first round pick for him but it is the secondary picks we will get screwed on. Jared Allen gets a 1st and two 3rds. Peppers may get the 1st, 3rd and 5th. Of course, demanding to play in a 3-4 defensive scheme limits the trade partners we may deal with. Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Cowboys, Dolphins, and Houston.

When someone disagrees or offers another side that differs from your own opinion just let it go.......that is what a message board is.

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I think we get at least a 1st or else Marty makes him play under the franchise tag next year.

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Peppers may have hurt his value but he is still prime realestate.

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All we need is more then one team involved and what he says about us won't matter because they will be bidding against eachother and would be willing to give up at least a first because thats at least what hes worth.

If Roy Williams can garner a 1st and more then Peppers better bring at least that.

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Not true. IMO opinion it just throws some blood in the water.

Now all the sharks will come.

Everyone knows we will Tag his ass and keep him here if need be, so we will get A LOT of offers.

Its not every day that you know where to go to get "the guy"--

Well he is on our sale rack--

Come on down!!!!

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All we need is more then one team involved and what he says about us won't matter because they will be bidding against eachother and would be willing to give up at least a first because thats at least what hes worth.

If Roy Williams can garner a 1st and more then Peppers better bring at least that.

Exactly...thank you.

Do you think that teams would rather deal with the team that owns the rights to him and give up draft picks to be able to sign him to a deal that they deem monetarily appropriate?

Or

Do you think they want to get into a bidding war with multiple teams so that the price can get so enormously high that it takes up an extra 10% of their allotted cap space????

I guess if you value your draft picks that much then you might wanna get into a bidding war but I bet most teams would rather just make the deal, give up the compensation, keep the contract reasonable, and get on with their game-planning...

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Yeah, I agree, that didn't help matters. But I still think we'll be able to get a good deal. The fact is, a lot of teams will jump at the chance to land Peppers, and they'll be bidding against each other. I still think we get minimum a first rounder out of this.

Yeah, I think you will get at least a first rounder for Peppers. I hope the Texans give up that 15th pick for him, but then again if we can get Suggs which I doubt I would be happy. I think Peppers might be a Eagle next year.

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