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i agree the two are separate, so lets not go holding his hand by saying that he saved more people than he killed when the two are totally unrelated and aren't mutually exclusive, it just sounds like you're grasping at straws.

I am not grasping at anything, I didn't vote for him in 04, and I am definitely not a supporter of GWB. In fact, he lost my vote well before the Iraqi war.

I was using the comparison to highlight the Africa assistance, not to defend actions in Iraq. I agree that the good things he did in Africa do not excuse mistakes in other places and I didn't mean to indicate otherwise.

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On what planet could LBJ be considered worse than Bush?

lol

Not worse, but LBJ was the first one I thought of when we started the silly comparison game.

The LBJ/Kennedy combo was crappy, but Bush is the worst for quite some time, IMO.

How lowering taxes AND increasing spending AND increasing the size of the gov't makes one a "conservative" really puzzles my noodle.

He should have spent less time on bended knee and more time using his brai....nevermind, that might have been worse.

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Have you ever listened to LBJ's tapes? He's more racist than anyone the Repubs have put in there except Nixon.

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Yet he basically turned in all his favors in order to get the Civil Rights Act passed as a legacy to Kennedy. Pretty wierd.

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More racist except he helped the civil rights movement....damn those closet racists and their help for the advancement of a race they hate!!

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If Bush said half the things LBJ said on those tapes, he'd be vilified.

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If Bush said half the things LBJ said on those tapes, he'd be vilified.

lbj would be vilified because you shouldn't let someone else record half of your tapes for you.

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lbj would be vilified because you shouldn't let someone else record half of your tapes for you.

If I were president, the first thing I would do is get rid of all the tape recorders. Wouldn't want the folks in Dallas hearing me refer to pansy ass cowboy fans on Sundays. :)

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lbj would be vilified because you shouldn't let someone else record half of your tapes for you.

What was the word they had for Democrats who would never vote for a black man? Yellow dog democrats? Something like that? LBJ was a yellow dog Dem from the word go.

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What was the word they had for Democrats who would never vote for a black man? Yellow dog democrats? Something like that? LBJ was a yellow dog Dem from the word go.

yellow dog dems were old southern dems who would vote for a yellow dog before a republican. the term was dead before anyone even thought about putting black men in seats of power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_dog_democrat

here you go.

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Okay. Well some were using it last year to describe the dems who wouldn't vote for Obama.

I seriously doubt LBJ pushed for Civil Rights legislation so much as he just got out of its way.

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Sigmund, I think you are thinking of Blue dog democrats. Those are conservative democrats.

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