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Yea? So? They don't get carte blanche to spend taxpayer money however the f*ck they feel like, then come back and ask for more. If you are sh*tty enough at your job that you put your multi-billion dollar company in the hands of the feds then no, I don't think you should get your pizza party this year. Sorry, tough sh*t. You behave like children, you get treated like children.

I suggest you think about the situation logically instead of emotionally. If you're against the bailout that's fine, I'm not too happy about it either. But if it's going to be done then do it, and don't put a stupid provision that limits their ability to rebound.

This isn't about vacations and parties, it's about paying someone a proper salary for the job they do. You hire people based on their talent, you give them a salary based on that talent - it's as simple as that.

If my tax dollars are going to go to a company then I want that company to succeed so they can repay. I want that company to get the best people they can, at a salary they deserve.

No matter what, tax money is going to pay for new diamond earrings for some trophy wife, trying to limit pay to executives doesn't change that.

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natty i think we've proven inconclusively that money doesn't guarantee you get to hire the best people in the financial industry

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I suggest you think about the situation logically instead of emotionally. If you're against the bailout that's fine, I'm not too happy about it either. But if it's going to be done then do it, and don't put a stupid provision that limits their ability to rebound.

This isn't about vacations and parties, it's about paying someone a proper salary for the job they do. You hire people based on their talent, you give them a salary based on that talent - it's as simple as that.

If my tax dollars are going to go to a company then I want that company to succeed so they can repay. I want that company to get the best people they can, at a salary they deserve.

No matter what, tax money is going to pay for new diamond earrings for some trophy wife, trying to limit pay to executives doesn't change that.

give them a good salary, they deserve it, and they are in the private sector they deserve more than those in the public sector, but bonuses? fug that. bonuses for failing? for not only tanking your company, but the economy at large? fug that. It has nothing to do with emotion, how can you talk about paying people fair salaries when these companies are laying off tens of thousands of people instead of cutting their management's pay? What good is that doing? The stimulus bill, regardless of how I feel about it was created to infuse the system with money, to provide work and jobs for the people, not to keep the rich in the standard of living that they are used to while the working and middle classes take the hit. I understand that people are going to abuse the system regardless, and greed during flush times is a necessary evil in a capitalistic society, but everyone has to take the hit now, the people, the managers, the unions, everyone.

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natty i think we've proven inconclusively that money doesn't guarantee you get to hire the best people in the financial industry

Well of course, money doesn't guarantee the best people in any industry.

give them a good salary, they deserve it, and they are in the private sector they deserve more than those in the public sector, but bonuses? f*ck that. bonuses for failing? for not only tanking your company, but the economy at large? f*ck that. It has nothing to do with emotion, how can you talk about paying people fair salaries when these companies are laying off tens of thousands of people instead of cutting their management's pay? What good is that doing? The stimulus bill, regardless of how I feel about it was created to infuse the system with money, to provide work and jobs for the people, not to keep the rich in the standard of living that they are used to while the working and middle classes take the hit. I understand that people are going to abuse the system regardless, and greed during flush times is a necessary evil in a capitalistic society, but everyone has to take the hit now, the people, the managers, the unions, everyone.

Trust me, I hear ya. I don't like it any more than the next guy, I just want it to succeed and feel like it was a counterproductive move to make people feel better about it.

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I guess this pay thing could have the effect of bringing younger, different minded people to the problems at hand, other than that limiting the options of a company trying to survive does seem counter productive.

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If you get TARP money or ANY future govt funds, NO big fat bonus.

If you don't want a cap on CEO pay etc, then run a good biz and stay off the radar.

There is a time and place to reward your top performers or entice future talent. But thats when the grass is growing.

Went it aint, sorry, you reap what you sow.

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No doubt!

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it feels so good to be respected by people i dont know and dont affect my life

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it feels so good to be respected by people i dont know and dont affect my life

it's easy to take it for granted when people aren't bombing you.

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If you get TARP money or ANY future govt funds, NO big fat bonus.

If you don't want a cap on CEO pay etc, then run a good biz and stay off the radar.

There is a time and place to reward your top performers or entice future talent. But thats when the grass is growing.

Went it aint, sorry, you reap what you sow.

Not sure if I agree. Its easier to do well in good times, but in bad times is when a company truly needs its top performers.

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:lol: at anyone thinking the executives at banks are "top performers"

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:lol: at anyone thinking the executives at banks are "top performers"

There are top performers in any industry, numb nuts. That's why they're called top performers. But since we get the Gators tonight, I forgive you. :D

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