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1. Not true, as they were charge under "war crimes" after the war.

2 Depends on which time frame you are talking about. Yes if you are talking about US history during "The American Revolutionary War" (1775–1783)

3. Maybe, but as for right now? It is still the law of the land.

A bonus for you: Your going to have to make sure the Government "gets something out of the deal" before it will ever be legalized. That is why it has not been so far. To much money is made from the way things are right now. Once someone is able to figure out how to make the Government MORE money legalizing it, then you will see a change. just saying :D

1) it took an international outside source to impose those war crimes.. until someone bigger and badder came in and stopped their party, if you went against their ideals, you yourself would be murdered.. it took an army to dictate otherwise. so yeah, nazi's under their law were just doing their job.. the same comparison could be made for slavery.. there are plenty of these points to raise..

2) that time frame would be correct. our fore fathers were committing treason.

3) and the only point that needs raised is it's time to change the law of the land. there is absolutely no reason to keep it illegal. it hurts in every aspect more when it's illegal than when it's legal. so when it's time for your vote: vote in favor of legalization. ;)

bonus) hundreds of millions of dollars will come in through taxes, just as it works with alcohol and tobacco. the billions of dollars spent to keep fighting marijuana could be redirected onto actual useful purposes. so I guess you could say there is a buttload of money that could be made..

and if that isn't enough and your government requires kickbacks of some sort, you, as well as everyone else, should feel a strong desire to stand up against such tyranny.. I'm curious how many would actually cower, instead of stand strong?

next?

Yep, but now the Government make LOTS of money off Alcohol. That's how it works.

for some reason you think they won't make LOTS of money off marijuana through taxes? marijuana will be taxed just like alcohol and tobacco.. that's how it works. lol

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1) it took an international outside source to impose those war crimes.. until someone bigger and badder came in and stopped their party, if you went against their ideals, you yourself would be murdered.. it took an army to dictate otherwise. so yeah, nazi's under their law were just doing their job.. the same comparison could be made for slavery.. there are plenty of these points to raise..

2) that time frame would be correct.

3 + bonus) hundreds of millions of dollars will come in through taxes, just as it works with alcohol and tobacco. the billions of dollars spent to keep fighting marijuana could be redirected onto actual useful purposes.

and if that isn't enough and your government requires kickbacks of some sort, you, as well as everyone else, should stand up against such corruption.

next?

hardly a valid point raised... for some reason you think they won't make LOTS of money off marijuana through taxes?

First, I did not say the Government would not make money off Marijuana. So far the majority of Voters do not agree and have not made it happen on their own yet.

As for #2 Glad we can agree.

Now for #1, Under "THEIR LAW" Well YES! The thing is, this point is mute as we can not compare laws Nazis had to modern laws the US has on legalization laws governing narcotics. However IF you live inside the United States of America, you have a choice. (A) Follow the Laws placed into effect. OR (B) Choose not to follow the LAW & pay for the consequences that follow from your choice.

#3 Are you from another country or are you from the same as me USA? As for "your government requires kickbacks" I do not agree with that type of corruption! It is actually against the law. I was in NO way saying that our government requires kickbacks to implement laws. To get what you want (the legalization of Marijuana) will take more than the $$ angle. Your movement needs to place a better face forward. example: If anyone talks about Marijuana in a negative light. Work to understand why, not jump into how they are crazy for not using any narcotic.

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So did the corporations, and yet it was still outlawed. :)

I agree with what you are saying. It has a lot to do with the public's views towards alcohol at that time too.

The American public, which had once willingly or at least resignedly accepted the law, gradually came to look upon it as the ill-advised measure it was. Yet, because the issue was political dynamite, the movement to abolish prohibition made little headway during the 1920s. Not until 1933, the first year of Franklin D. Roosevelt's administration was it repealed. Following repeal, liquor control again became a state, rather than federal problem.

Back to the original point I had made. At this point in time it is illegal. Once it is not illegal have at it. If you live in the US and you use narcotics don't complain if you are busted for it. I know speeding is wrong and when I have gotten pulled over for it, I don't bitch and complain to the cop. WHY?? B/c I know I was breaking the law by doing my actions.

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First, I did not say the Government would not make money off Marijuana. So far the majority of Voters do not agree and have not made it happen on their own yet.

Now for #1, Under "THEIR LAW" Well YES! The thing is, this point is mute as we can not compare laws Nazis had to modern laws the US has on legalization laws governing narcotics. However IF you live inside the United States of America, you have a choice. (A) Follow the Laws placed into effect. OR (B) Choose not to follow the LAW & pay for the consequences that follow from your choice.

#3 Are you from another country or are you from the same as me USA? As for "your government requires kickbacks" I do not agree with that type of corruption! It is actually against the law. I was in NO way saying that our government requires kickbacks to implement laws. To get what you want (the legalization of Marijuana) will take more than the $$ angle. Your movement needs to place a better face forward. example: If anyone talks about Marijuana in a negative light. Work to understand why, not jump into how they are crazy for not using any narcotic.

1st point) that's fine.. in 2012, there's reason to believe they will.. 45% was an astonishing number. they now have 2 years to work on the other 6%, we'll see how that goes.. plenty of other states plan to vote for marijuana for medicinal use. it's going to be a process, but one that will eventually hit most states..

2nd point) it was a simple statement.. you can say it was a "moot" point, but not really.. that simple statement is, the Nazi's did nothing against their law. I can compare it to our modern laws, because the simple point is just because something is against the law or even legal doesn't make it right or justified. I am also simply raising a valid point by saying law makers and law enforcers are not to be viewed as all-knowing. there are a lot of idiots running this country.. lol

3rd point) ignore "your country" comment.. I was just talking poo mostly, but the points do exist.. I am from the USA.. I wasn't saying you agreed with kickbacks and yes, they are very much illegal. you said the government is going to need something in return to make it legal. I'm saying taxes will be in the millions, and the insane amount of money being spent to fight against marijuana can be put to an actual purpose that benefits the people. and if you were going to say that wasn't enough, I wanted to make an exaggerated point that if the government needs kick backs in order to do the right thing, and majority votes mean nothing, then it's time for a revolution. Egypt-style. ;)

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1st point) that's fine.. in 2012, there's reason to believe they will.. 45% was an astonishing number. they now have 2 years to work on the other 6%, we'll see how that goes.. plenty of other states plan to vote for marijuana for medicinal use. it's going to be a process, but one that will eventually hit most states..

2nd point) it was a simple statement.. you can say it was a "moot" point, but not really.. that simple statement is, the Nazi's did nothing against their law. I can compare it to our modern laws, because the simple point is just because something is against the law or even legal doesn't make it right or justified. I am also simply raising a valid point by saying law makers and law enforcers are not to be viewed as all-knowing. there are a lot of idiots running this country.. lol

3rd point) ignore "your country" comment.. I was just talking poo mostly, but the points do exist.. I am from the USA.. I wasn't saying you agreed with kickbacks and yes, they are very much illegal. you said the government is going to need something in return to make it legal. I'm saying taxes will be in the millions, and the insane amount of money being spent to fight against marijuana can be put to an actual purpose that benefits the people. and if you were going to say that wasn't enough, I wanted to make an exaggerated point that if the government needs kick backs in order to do the right thing, and majority votes mean nothing, then it's time for a revolution. Egypt-style. ;)

I really liked your comments.

2) I now understand which way you was going with your comment. I agree that just b/c someone is in-charge or is elected does not mean the know what they are doing. :)

3) I think the use of medical marijuana should be allowed every where. (not for every reason like sore thumbs, but for real reasons). I do not think Marijuana should be a schedule I narcotic, but it is right now. I do think the other schedule I narcotics should remain.

I think you and I do agree on a few issues. For example I think if Marijuana was dispensed out in a controlled situation (Like ABC stores) it would take some of the criminal elements from using it to cause harm to people plus deprive them of a income source. If we can get it out of those peoples control it would help. The sad thing is most of the "big" suppliers of marijuana also run smuggling operations that include other narcotics, human, money and weapons smuggling. One of the worst is the Human smuggling. I have seen this first hand and the things these smugglers do to these people is unbelievable. Women (kids too) forced into sex slaves and then discarded (killed) as if they were trash after the smugglers are done using them. I know this does not seem to be about marijuana but it does finance these actions. I think we all can agree if the legalization of marijuana can help place pressure on these organizations in limiting their other criminal activities then that would be worth more than tax money gained.

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