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ARod tested positive for steriods in 2003

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Wonder what Dimbee & Epi think about all this. Being they've quietly rooted for A-Rod to surpass Bonds because he did it the "right" way.

I've been loudly rooting for ANYONE to beat the artificially enhanced new record set by Bonds.

Sadly, it seems nobody is clean, and every day that goes by makes me think that things were in a sad state of affairs in baseball not too long ago.

It is beginning to sound like the question isn't who was taking performance enhancing drugs, but rather, who WASN'T.

It sounds more and more like MLB was more like the WWE.

And as I have said many times in the past, this goes further than MLB. The NFL has been the beneficiary of a much more forgiving fan base. Even the Merriman thing barely registered with hardcore NFL fans.

Welp, I'm here to tell you that it goes superdeep.

Olympic sports, cycling (yes, even the untouchable Lance is likely a user), baseball, football, you name it.

The temptation is just too great.

These people don't realize that the long term effect on their bodies is a really big deal, and you'll start to see the athletes of this era dying MUCH too young. Trust me on that.

And the records that they shatter will seem meaningless, and that's the sad part, since the beauty of discussions about the players of this era vs. that era etc. are now just bunk.

You can't compare regular guys to cartoon characters/video game characters.

These guys have a cheat code, and that sucks for the fans.

And it'll suck for the players when their health goes down the crapper when the playing days are over.

The classic example of short term benefit with long term detrimental effect.

KT, I don't hate these guys.

The whole thing just makes me sad.

Disappointed.

Kinda mad.

Am I surprised....no.

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Fair enough Epi. Dimbee, where art thou? :D

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Yet people turn a blind eye to the cortizone shot which is much stronger of a steroid than than the evil anabolic steroid because the government says it is ok?

What about HGH? I promise you more than half the NFL, MLB, NHL is on it......it just can't be tested for without a blood test and no union will approve that. This is why the anabolic steroid thing means nothing to me any more.

The whole thing is a joke....

Cortisone shots, when used at proper dosage and when used as directed are MUCH safer than systemic anabolic steroid abuse used at levels appropriate for horses or draft animals JR.

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String his ass up, too.

Ya know, I'm almost to the point of wanting them to ban all current players and start the fug over.

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Cortisone shots, when used at proper dosage and when used as directed are MUCH safer than systemic anabolic steroid abuse used at levels appropriate for horses or draft animals JR.

I am no doctor but both enhance performance though right? And in the same dose cortisone shot is a stronger steroid than the anabolic one right?

Someone who otherwise can't walk, gets a high enough dose of cortizone to mask the pain and is sent back out on the field only to deal with the repercussions of the actual injury itself which in most cases is now worse.

case 1: Player can't hit home runs because he is 35 years old and has lost strength...player takes anabolic steroid...player's strength increases and can now hit an extra 25 feet like he did 10 years ago.

case 2: Player can't run fast because he has 35 year old catcher knees and they hurt, gets cortisone shot before every game, can now run like he is 10 years younger.

I don't see a huge difference, just my viewpoint on the whole thing. And to go back to my original statement, why not just use HGH since it can't be detected? I am sure there are plenty out there that are....in every sport.

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The only thing that would make me feel almost good about it would be a total and complete no tolerance policy.

Instaban.

Sadly, the tests will never keep up with the tech, so it probably doesn't even matter.

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I am no doctor but both enhance performance though right? And in the same dose cortisone shot is a stronger steroid than the anabolic one right?

Someone who otherwise can't walk, gets a high enough dose of cortizone to mask the pain and is sent back out on the field only to deal with the repercussions of the actual injury itself which in most cases is now worse.

case 1: Player can't hit home runs because he is 35 years old and has lost strength...player takes anabolic steroid...player's strength increases and can now hit an extra 25 feet like he did 10 years ago.

case 2: Player can't run fast because he has 35 year old catcher knees and they hurt, gets cortisone shot before every game, can now run like he is 10 years younger.

I don't see a huge difference, just my viewpoint on the whole thing. And to go back to my original statement, why not just use HGH since it can't be detected? I am sure there are plenty out there that are....in every sport.

I see what you are saying, but you can drag this out to a silly extreme by not allowing weight lifting since it increases strength, cold medications when the player is feeling like crap, etc. etc.

I think cortisone injections are just one weapon in the armamentarium at the disposal of qualified orthopaedic surgeons to deal with joint pain and inflammation on an as needed basis, rather than an attempt by a player to cheat the system.

I think intent is the difference.

http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/cortisone-shots-1349.html

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Well it didn't taint any World Series wins!

:(

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But Pettite and Clemens didn't?

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Nope.

jerk!

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The only thing that would make me feel almost good about it would be a total and complete no tolerance policy.

Instaban.

Sadly, the tests will never keep up with the tech, so it probably doesn't even matter.

Agree 100%. I have stopped caring about the whole steroid thing because if that. Desensitzed.....but I have become that way with so many things anymore.

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guess you guys will have to wait till Evan Longoria sets the record in 15 years to see somebody clean...and dreamy

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