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#1 Happy Panther

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:04 AM

Addresses first pick and Clausen and the chances of trading down...nothing new but hey we are getting the press

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:06 AM

Panthers will take Fairley or Bowers
Clausen wasn't given a chance with the lame duck coaching staff :rolleyes:
Hurney is a wheeler dealer who would love to trade down but may not find a partner.

See nothing new

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:06 AM

It's about time...

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:07 AM

Panthers will take Fairley or Bowers
Clausen wasn't given a chance with the lame duck coaching staff :rolleyes:
Hurney is a wheeler dealer who would love to trade down but may not find a partner.

See nothing new


I think there's a certain degree of legitimacy to this idea.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:11 AM

I think there's a certain degree of legitimacy to this idea.


Really don't know how you would say otherwise, but plenty do.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:16 AM

Really don't know how you would say otherwise, but plenty do.


Oh I don't think he was given a fair chance by the former coaching staff by any means. However, he also didn't show that he could command the offense. Outside of one half of football in Seattle he showed zero progression from game to game and by the end of the season was a worse QB then when he started. Maybe that will change this season maybe not, but there's no denying that we have a HUGE question mark at QB going into this season. How the coaching staff deals with this question mark (working with Clausen, drafting a QB #1, bringing in a vet, starting Moore etc etc..) will determine our success or lack of success this season.....

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:16 AM

I think there's a certain degree of legitimacy to this idea.


Yep.

Let's be honest. We all know Fox. We know how he would have gameplanned with the run as the focus. When the game plan had to be deviated because of the fail...do you really think we had any semblemce of passing playcalling extravagance?

Give him one more year. Then sell the farm to get Luck if he fails.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:20 AM

Yep.

Let's be honest. We all know Fox. We know how he would have gameplanned with the run as the focus. When the game plan had to be deviated because of the fail...do you really think we had any semblemce of passing playcalling extravagance?

Give him one more year. Then sell the farm to get Luck if he fails.


If what he showed last year is what he's got we won't need to sell much of a farm....

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:20 AM

Mike Shula and Chud need to 'scout' Clausen and give him a workout just like any other draft prospect. They should also scout/workout Gabbert and a couple other QBs in the draft.. go with the guy that will fit their scheme. I don't think Clausen is the type of guy to run the air coryell offense.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:21 AM

i thought it was coaching until i seen wr running wide open across the field. so ima say 75% clausen, 25% coaching.

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:25 AM

i thought it was coaching until i seen wr running wide open across the field. so ima say 75% clausen, 25% coaching.


This is my biggest problem. I saw too many plays where WRs were open, and Clausen either A: wasn't going through his progressions, B: playing the role of Captain Checkdown or C: was already scrambling out of the pocket way before defenders got close to him and didn't have the arm strength to hit said open WR on the run.....

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Posted 08 February 2011 - 10:25 AM

The only way to know how Jimmy or any other QB we had on the roster last year will look is to give them a shot with the new coaching staff and healthy oline. Could'nt see anything for the smoke and flames from the trainwreck that was our 2010 season.