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JR condescending to Peyton Manning during CBA meeting?

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The owners made too many concessions in 2006. JR's job is to be a bullheaded, stubborn asshole in these negotiations. He was voted as the head of the owners to spearhead these negotiations, he is playing a role that the other owners put him into a position to do. He is the bad cop for the owners. If there was any serious dissension amongst the owners based on JR's stance then we would know about it. They have, up until this point appeared as a united front, and that alone should let you know where the other owners stand.

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Excellent question. Very easy answer though.

Open the books and show!

How do you negotiate profit splits if the costs are not shared between the negotiating parties? duh.

Work for a privately owned company and ask them to show you their books....you are more likely to be shown the door than the books.

People just do not understand businesses.

What employees make has ZERO to do with how much revenue or profit a company makes....plain and simple.

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uh, lol.

so the players weren't even offended by it?

The players are big boys and MOST understand that this is nothing but business.

Do you think that negotiations go smoothly and cordially between agents and owners? Doubtful.

The players are used to this.

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I can't believe people are goofy enough to think free agents won't sign here over something that's being related second hand by a guy who wasn't even there.

Heck, the Bengals, Bills and Raiders can still sign free agents despite being among the worst run organizations in the league. But people think guys are going to turn down millions of dollars just because "he was so mean to Peyton" :frown2:

We just signed a head coach who has repeatedly said one of the reasons he signed was that he was impressed with Richardson. Players who play here love him, and don't give me "party line" because their tune doesn't change when they leave here either.

Reality: Free agents being willing to sign here will have a lot more to do with Ron Rivera and what he and his staff are able to accomplish than it will anything said by Jerry Richardson during these negotiations.

I agree, furthermore when you have unions and owners this type of work stoppage is to be expected it may take some time but will be worked out.

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Work for a privately owned company and ask them to show you their books....you are more likely to be shown the door than the books.

People just do not understand businesses.

What employees make has ZERO to do with how much revenue or profit a company makes....plain and simple.

Yeah and when the NBA players got the NBA owners to show them the books, the players dismissed the books as being phony anyways... so they're not even going to play that game.

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Total embarrassment

Bullshit.

JR has the guts to tell these overpaid children that they are employees. They show up, perform a task, and draw a paycheck. They are NOT entitled to 50% of the value of the franchise.

If they want the rights of owners, they should take some of those millions they are making and invest in the teams.

These owners have invested hundreds of millions of their own wealth and debt. They pay for ALL of the operating costs of the organization. Yet, the players (fuging employees) think they are ENTITLED to over 50% of the revenue stream for said organization.

These unions are what is wrong with our economy today. They serve no purpose but to force ownership to OVERPAY.

A guy in Detroit should not make $75 an hour to push around a broom....and these players shoudl not make $15-$20M for playing a game.

If they don't like it, I hear that McDonalds is hiring.

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Don't argue with Riddle, he almost has an MBA

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JR should be the Republican nominee in 2012. lol.

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I'm with the owners on this issue and who cares if JR was a ass to Peyton. Wipe the sand out of your vag its business. You cant give the players what they are asking for. Its to much. If they are that strapped for cash then do what the majority of the nation is doing and cut your spending. I am becoming more and more of a college football fan these days anyway.

(Except I don't want 18 game seasons. That might to much for players and would water down the season.)

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Bullpoo.

JR has the guts to tell these overpaid children that they are employees. They show up, perform a task, and draw a paycheck. They are NOT entitled to 50% of the value of the franchise.

If they want the rights of owners, they should take some of those millions they are making and invest in the teams.

These owners have invested hundreds of millions of their own wealth and debt. They pay for ALL of the operating costs of the organization. Yet, the players (fuging employees) think they are ENTITLED to over 50% of the revenue stream for said organization.

These unions are what is wrong with our economy today. They serve no purpose but to force ownership to OVERPAY.

A guy in Detroit should not make $75 an hour to push around a broom....and these players shoudl not make $15-$20M for playing a game.

If they don't like it, I hear that McDonalds is hiring.

NFL players are the product.

Players sacrfice their body and their shelf life is extemely small compared to other sports or professions. Do you know how many players live a semi-crippled life short time after after they retire?

90% of small businesses that are started by a first time businessperson go bankrupt in the first 2 years. How many NFL teams do that? Zero, because of the monopoly and revenue sharing.

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NFL players are the product.

Players sacrfice their body and their shelf life is extemely small compared to other sports or professions. Do you know how many players live a semi-crippled life short time after after they retire?

90% of small businesses that are started by a first time businessperson go bankrupt in the first 2 years. How many NFL teams do that? Zero, because of the monopoly and revenue sharing.

How many of those NFL owners are first time business owners? Are they in the position that they are in without being solid businessmen first? It is true that the NFL is a monopoly for their market (as are virtually any unions in the US for that matter), but they haven't garnered their success through bad business dealings. They know exactly what they are doing and it is why it is the premier sport in America by which all other leagues are judged.

As for the players... if the job is so incredibly sh*tty, why take it? Find something else if it is really that bad. There are 10s of thousands of people ready to take their spot because of how good those "poor souls" have it.

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I've seen the statement a couple of times now that "players are the product not employees."

Can someone explain to me what they mean by that? Because to me that statement actually makes it sound like you are making the players into an assets. I don't think that is what you mean by it but I don't understand it otherwise.

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