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Why we draft a QB #1 overall = Tony Pike

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We won't draft a QB # 1 overall because there are no QB's in this draft even close to being worth a # 1 overall pick... has nothing to do with Pike.

Look at Hurney's draft history, we take safe picks... this tells me it will be Bowers or Dareus.

There are 2 top ten QB's in this draft. If they are top ten they are worthy of number 1.

I can promise you that if Rivera thinks one of these QB's could be a once in a decade type talent, or a franchise guy. He will lobby his arse off to get that guy. He addressed it in his interview to join the team for a reason.

he wants to be a great coach and coach here for a long time. If he puts off the QB position another year he knows he may be looking for a new job in 3 years.

Most coaches are given @ 3 years to create a winner. It takes most QB's about 2 years to get comfortable in the NFL If he drafts a QB this year he has a chance to develop that guy for 2 years (if he has to) before having to start him to try and save his job.

Next year he will have only one year. For someone like Luck that may be all you need. But if we are picking 11-20 we won't get someone like Luck. It will likely be another project of sorts.

The only problem is, the project will be put on the field faster and be expected to be productive sooner. If we draft a QB next year, let him sit his first year, the start him his second year. If he struggles a little his first year as a starter and we go 6-10 in Rivera's 3rd year.

Good bye Rivera.

Not only that, but waiting until next year would essentially give Rivera one shot at a QB. Take one this year and he busts (god forbid). He still could make a move after his second year to try to fix the position and likely his job.

If he waits until next year he is putting all of his eggs in one basket If that guy fails he is toast.

So there are a lot of reasons we need to draft a QB this year. Some of them are employment related just as much as football related.

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We won't draft a QB # 1 overall because there are no QB's in this draft even close to being worth a # 1 overall pick... has nothing to do with Pike.

Look at Hurney's draft history, we take safe picks... this tells me it will be Bowers or Dareus.

How is either Bowers or Dareus a safe pick? Bowers just had MCL surgery in January, and Dareus only did 24 reps of 225, less then some WR and Runningbacks, Patrick Perterson is only 6'0".... the bottom line is.. no pick is a safe pick until they perform in the NFL. I trust the coaching staff to do their homework and select the guy that best fits what they want to do. If that is a QB, I hope it works, if its a DT,DE,WR,CB/S, I hope it works.

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Just reread the OP for the 3rd time and still have no idea what Tony Pike has to do with anything.

If we don't draft a QB, Tony Pike is Clausen's competition.

If Tony Pike sucks then Clausen doesn't have competition.

Clausen needs competition.

If the Panthers are not sold on Tony Pike being good competition for starter, then I believe we will draft a QB #1 overall.

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I respectfully disagree with you.

Bradford wasn't as good as Suh, but they took a chance on him, seemed to work out his first year.

I'm about 81.78% positive that we take a QB with our pick. whether it is gabbert or newton is yet to be determined.

But Bradford was considered to be a MUCH better prospect then any of the QB prospects in this class, so it was not nearly as much of a risk.

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good point. Suh > Bradford. However, the Rams knew getting that QB play would have the biggest overall impact on the team.

I'm pretty sure that getting good QB play has a positive effect (affect? I can't ever remember) on any team, and certainly would help us a whole hell of a lot too.

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If we don't draft a QB, Tony Pike is Clausen's competition.

If Tony Pike sucks then Clausen doesn't have competition.

Clausen needs competition.

If the Panthers are not sold on Tony Pike being good competition for starter, then I believe we will draft a QB #1 overall.

Why would you think that if we don't draft a QB that we wouldn't sign a FA?

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How is either Bowers or Dareus a safe pick? Bowers just had MCL surgery in January, and Dareus only did 24 reps of 225, less then some WR and Runningbacks, Patrick Perterson is only 6'0".... the bottom line is.. no pick is a safe pick until they perform in the NFL. I trust the coaching staff to do their homework and select the guy that best fits what they want to do. If that is a QB, I hope it works, if its a DT,DE,WR,CB/S, I hope it works.

Right out of the gate Bowers and Dareus have much less to learn about their positions at the NFL level than any of the QB's... by definition that makes them safer picks, the stuff they've been doing in college translates directly to what they will need to do in the NFL.

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We won't draft a QB # 1 overall because there are no QB's in this draft even close to being worth a # 1 overall pick... has nothing to do with Pike.

Look at Hurney's draft history, we take safe picks... this tells me it will be Bowers or Dareus.

There are no safe picks in the draft. Dareus only benched 24 reps of 225... poor... and weak.. less then some RB's and WR.

Peterson is only 6'0", fairly was a 1 year wonder...

The only way it is a safe pick will be in 3 years when they are dominating on a high level....

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There are 2 top ten QB's in this draft. If they are top ten they are worthy of number 1.

I can promise you that if Rivera thinks one of these QB's could be a once in a decade type talent, or a franchise guy. He will lobby his arse off to get that guy. He addressed it in his interview to join the team for a reason.

he wants to be a great coach and coach here for a long time. If he puts off the QB position another year he knows he may be looking for a new job in 3 years.

Most coaches are given @ 3 years to create a winner. It takes most QB's about 2 years to get comfortable in the NFL If he drafts a QB this year he has a chance to develop that guy for 2 years (if he has to) before having to start him to try and save his job.

Next year he will have only one year. For someone like Luck that may be all you need. But if we are picking 11-20 we won't get someone like Luck. It will likely be another project of sorts.

The only problem is, the project will be put on the field faster and be expected to be productive sooner. If we draft a QB next year, let him sit his first year, the start him his second year. If he struggles a little his first year as a starter and we go 6-10 in Rivera's 3rd year.

Good bye Rivera.

Not only that, but waiting until next year would essentially give Rivera one shot at a QB. Take one this year and he busts (god forbid). He still could make a move after his second year to try to fix the position and likely his job.

If he waits until next year he is putting all of his eggs in one basket If that guy fails he is toast.

So there are a lot of reasons we need to draft a QB this year. Some of them are employment related just as much as football related.

On the other hand, if Rivera lobbies like hell to draft a QB # 1 overall and that QB is a bust... goodbye Rivera, you've just set the franchise back at least 5 years.

Personally I think Rivera will want to address the QB position with a veteran.

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Why would you think that if we don't draft a QB that we wouldn't sign a FA?

If we don't draft a QB then we will be forced to sign one in free agency. Being that the draft will come before a free agency period this year or even the possibility of no free agency period with the current state of labor talks, I would assume we draft a QB to be safe and also pursue one in free agency.

I have never said Clausen is going to be a bust, but I would be very suprised if any of our new coaches watched his film from last season and said "WOW... That's our guy!... no need to bring anyone new in, we got him right here."

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