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Its inevitable that Sid Lowe will be fired and it'll probably happen early this week (he isn't hosting his radio show that normally airs mid week). Any thoughts on who is going to replace him?

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tubby....honestly, they need to be relevant again, its what is best for the ACC

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tubby smith, sean miller or steve alford are very possible

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[quote name='HotSauce..']tubby....honestly, they need to be relevant again, its what is best for the ACC[/QUOTE]

Tubby is out...He has already stated that he is staying at Minnesota.

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Not sure and Doubt he will be considered. But how would you State fans feel about Jeff Capel?
He just got fired by Oklahoma. He is not a bad coach and just had them in the elite 8 2 years ago.

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[quote name='ncfan']Not sure and Doubt he will be considered. But how would you State fans feel about Jeff Capel?
He just got fired by Oklahoma. He is not a bad coach and just had them in the elite 8 2 years ago.[/QUOTE]

Ehh...there were rumors of trouble in that AD with some players so as of now I'd rather get someone else.

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How about me? I coached a boys team for 8-10 year olds a few years back. I think I could equal what Sid did at least. And to top it off some of these kids are getting ready to go to college so I might could bring a few of them with me.

Just give me the word, and I'll forward my resume along.

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They are going to have to overpay for someone good to come there and they should do just that.

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[quote name='unicar15']Tubby is out...He has already stated that he is staying at Minnesota.[/QUOTE]

Actually he may land in Arkansas according to this.....[url]http://1500espn.com/sportswire/Report_Arkansas_close_to_hiring_away_Gophers_coach_Tubby_Smith_031411[/url]

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[quote name='YoungPanthers89']tubby smith, sean miller or steve alford are very possible[/QUOTE]

Why would Sean Miller go to NC State? Arizona> NC State.

I don't see Miller leaving for anything except Pitt or a hell of a pay raise. How much does Lowe make?

Miller makes 2 million at AZ state. His contract is only two years old, would NC State buy out the rest of his contract? They'd have to pay 6 million to get him.

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[quote name='YoungPanthers89']tubby smith, sean miller or steve alford are very possible[/QUOTE]

I wonder if Alford's ready for a 2nd shot, since it seemed like he went running to UNM from Iowa

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[quote name='Tensor']Why would Sean Miller go to NC State? Arizona> NC State.

I don't see Miller leaving for anything except Pitt or a hell of a pay raise. How much does Lowe make?

Miller makes 2 million at AZ state. His contract is only two years old, would NC State buy out the rest of his contract? They'd have to pay 6 million to get him.[/QUOTE]

The line of thought is that Miller wants to get back east, he used to coach there and Archie is on his staff.

I don't think there is a chance in hell that it happens just because of the setup he has in Arizona. Well paid, very good class coming for a couple of years and a conference that he could take over if the upward trend continues. With all that said his buyout is only half a million according to this....... [url]http://www.pointguardu.com/f2/sean-millers-contract-57177/[/url]

I'm sure Arizona is working up a bigger buyout when his contract comes up for review this year.

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[quote name='Tensor']Why would Sean Miller go to NC State? Arizona> NC State.

I don't see Miller leaving for anything except Pitt or a hell of a pay raise. How much does Lowe make?

Miller makes 2 million at AZ state. His contract is only two years old, would NC State buy out the rest of his contract? They'd have to pay 6 million to get him.[/QUOTE]

Huh? Where do you get the 6 million dollar figure? Miller's buyout is 500K. I'll tell you what I've heard on the NC State front, which I think is pretty good information. From what I've heard Miller is State's #1 priority in the search. I have also heard that we are going to at least the 3 million dollar per year marker to land a legitimate coach.

Yow started her search months ago when it was apparent Sid Lowe was not going to survive this thing. As far as if she has heard information to make her confident enough to pursue Miller further I have no idea. I have heard that she has contacted him and I'll leave it at that.

Lowe is scheduled to meet with Yow tomorrow and then the assumption is that the "official" search will start.

This is what I'll say about the Miller family and people can say it is or isn't true but this is what I've heard from sources inside of NC State athletics. The feeling is that Sean Miller wants to get back to the east coast. Whether or not he wants to get back here now or later is not entirely clear. Arizona fans will tell you until they are blue in the face that Sean Miller has donated half of his yearly pay to this cause and that cause in Tucson. Whether or not that is true...IDK. But what does seem to be true is that Miller is an east coast guy and if the right job opens up then he will move his family back. That seems to be what his wife wants and its also what his assistant coaches want as well. So one can only assume that if his wife wants to move east and all of his closest assistants want to move east for the right job then its not that far fetched that he'd come coach a program like NC State in the ACC.

Also..People need to think back to when Arizona hired Sean Miller. They had to pitch that job to him three different times and increase their offer twice before he finally took the job. That doesn't exactly sound like a guy that was jumping at the opportunity to move to Tucson if you ask me.


I'm not going to get into the Arizona vs. NC State argument. There were people clamoring that Memphis was a great job while John Calipari was there. Recent success doesn't dictate which job is good and which job isn't. Passion, money, facilities, location, conference are all larger factors that recent success when coaches look for a job. I promise you that NC State has gobs of all of that stuff. So saying that Sean Miller would never leave Arizona for NC State is naive.
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State needs to think very critically about their next hire. They have some great young talents and could be a force in the ACC with some top notch recruits and good coaching in a couple years

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Sean Miller isn't going to be the next coach of NC State. Of this I am sure.

You talked about how his assistants want to go back east. That couldn't be any more false. Book Richardson, one of the top recruiting assistants in the entire nation, who is an amazing NYC recruiter(he was the head of the New York Gauchos program which is an AAU powerhouse in NY) turned down the job offer to be an assistant at St. Johns this past summer.

One of the big reasons why Sean Miller turned down the offer to coach at AZ at first, was because our AD was a complete fucking asswipe. After Miller was assured by a booster that Livengood(AD) would be gone within a few weeks, Miller accepted the job. He makes around 3 million dollars currently, and all of the Amy Miller wanting to move back east talk has no foundation. Not one Arizona website has ever reported that Amy Miller is unhappy in Tucson, so I don't know where some of the NC State "insiders" are getting their info from.

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Mark Fox is going to be the selection- and actually a good one. Now he just has to keep CJ Leslie away from the NBA and out of prison.

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I am confident in Yow's selection and couldn't care less about whose heard what, what job is better, and measuring the length of our basketball weiners.

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[quote name='pantherfan49']Mark Fox is going to be the selection- and actually a good one. Now he just has to keep CJ Leslie away from the NBA and out of prison.[/QUOTE]

I would like to have Fox, but he has a 2 million dollar buyout. I can't see any way for yow to justify that type of payment on top of what we will have to offer in a contract.

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[quote name='Panthro']I am confident in Yow's selection and couldn't care less about whose heard what, what job is better, and measuring the length of our basketball weiners.[/QUOTE]

This.

No matter who is selected I feel like the Dept. is finally in capable hands. The last search was a complete disaster because of our idiot AD. Yow has shown that she will spend some money and try to find a winner. On her first big hire she threw money at a final four soccer coach and got him. Obviously I don't think she will be able to make that kind of a splash with basketball. It does show me that she is there to win not just collect a paycheck. The legacy of her tenure will pretty much be defined by this decision.

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[quote name='stoat']I would like to have Fox, but he has a 2 million dollar buyout. I can't see any way for yow to justify that type of payment on top of what we will have to offer in a contract.[/QUOTE]

Well Fox could pony up the dollars for the buyout, but the buyout issue may definitely cause some snafus in this deal.

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[quote name='PantherFan52']Sean Miller isn't going to be the next coach of NC State. Of this I am sure.

You talked about how his assistants want to go back east. That couldn't be any more false. Book Richardson, one of the top recruiting assistants in the entire nation, who is an amazing NYC recruiter(he was the head of the New York Gauchos program which is an AAU powerhouse in NY) turned down the job offer to be an assistant at St. Johns this past summer.

One of the big reasons why Sean Miller turned down the offer to coach at AZ at first, was because our AD was a complete fuging asswipe. After Miller was assured by a booster that Livengood(AD) would be gone within a few weeks, Miller accepted the job. He makes around 3 million dollars currently, and all of the Amy Miller wanting to move back east talk has no foundation. Not one Arizona website has ever reported that Amy Miller is unhappy in Tucson, so I don't know where some of the NC State "insiders" are getting their info from.[/QUOTE]

No one is saying that it's a done deal that he's going to NC State. Everyone admits that it will be an uphill battle to get him, but he's being considered because A) he used to coach at State, B) his wife has family in the RTP area, C) he was believed to have wanted the State job 5 years ago and D) Arizona had to pitch the job 3 times to him before he accepted it.

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That said, I don't believe we'll get Miller. It just makes too much sense for him to be our coach, so it will never happen. It will probably be someone coaching at a mid-major that has a history of turning programs around... Or, since we are NC State, it will probably be someone at a mid-major that has a less than spectacular record at that school.

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[quote name='pantherfan49']Mark Fox is going to be the selection- and actually a good one. Now he just has to keep CJ Leslie away from the NBA and out of prison.[/QUOTE]

I like Mark Fox a lot actually. However, so does UGA because they slapped him with a 2 million dollar buyout which is insane. For that reason, I don't think he is NC State's next coach. I could be wrong and if I am then I'd be happy with Fox but that is a ton of money to pay up front with no results in conference.

[quote name='PantherFan52']Sean Miller isn't going to be the next coach of NC State. Of this I am sure.

You talked about how his assistants want to go back east. That couldn't be any more false. Book Richardson, one of the top recruiting assistants in the entire nation, who is an amazing NYC recruiter(he was the head of the New York Gauchos program which is an AAU powerhouse in NY) turned down the job offer to be an assistant at St. Johns this past summer.

One of the big reasons why Sean Miller turned down the offer to coach at AZ at first, was because our AD was a complete fuging asswipe. After Miller was assured by a booster that Livengood(AD) would be gone within a few weeks, Miller accepted the job. He makes around 3 million dollars currently, and all of the Amy Miller wanting to move back east talk has no foundation. Not one Arizona website has ever reported that Amy Miller is unhappy in Tucson, so I don't know where some of the NC State "insiders" are getting their info from.[/QUOTE]

I'm just telling you what I have heard from people that know what happens at NC State before it happens and they are usually extremely reliable. I'm not going to sit here and argue with an Arizona fan about the "happiness of the Miller family." I'm just reporting what I have heard. Also, just because Book Richardson turned down an offer to work with Steve Lavin at SJU doesn't mean he is content out west. It just means he didn't want to work at St. Johns.

Like I said...Zona fans are going to tell you until they are blue in the face that Sean Miller has no interest in the NCSU job but it just isn't true. Will that be his story during the tournament? Of course..he focused on winning right now and if he wins a lot during the tournament I'd say it decreases our chances of landing him. However, the fact of the matter is that State has reached out earlier in the season and we'll wait until after the dance to pursue him more..

Like I said earlier...I'm not saying we hire Sean Miller. What I am saying is that the talk of their being "no chance" is ludicrous.

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[quote name='Tensor']Why would Sean Miller go to NC State? Arizona> NC State.

I don't see Miller leaving for anything except Pitt or a hell of a pay raise. How much does Lowe make?

Miller makes 2 million at AZ state. His contract is only two years old, would NC State buy out the rest of his contract? They'd have to pay 6 million to get him.[/QUOTE]

Miller might not leave for NC State..But where do you get Arizona > NC State? They both havent been relevant (tournament or not) in several years.. Both have a good basketball tradition and history.. both with a title. But NC State > Arizona that the simple fact ACC > Pac-10.

Think UVA had a better program than Washington St Before Bennett showed up? hardly.. its about playing in arguably the best basketball conference in the the past 20 years.

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We(Arizona) weren't relevent because we had 2 interim coaches in 2 straight years, yet still made the tournament both times(sweet sixteen 2 years ago). Under those circumstances they are pretty "relevent."

Oh yeah, and Miller will be signing an extension with Arizona after this season. So i'll say it again, Miller has no interest in the NCSU job.

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