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HGH testing coming in new CBA??...maybe

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doesn't sound like the coaches are doing their job there. did you not have to take technique classes?

we do.

i went to bail and for whatever reason my hand got stuck right after my left arm died mid lift. came down on my left shoulder and took me with it. I wrenched my back pretty awful but was lucky nothing else was hurt. it was my fault.

it was only 80 kilos and i'd just done 77 without a problem.

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why in the name of god does anyone even care

is this like people pretend that baseball players in the 60s and 70s weren't hopped up on speed

Because when they do get caught, the go from

Shawne Merriman '06 (last off-season he was shooting up)

63 tkls 8 PD 17.0 sacks 4 FF 1 INT in 12 games

to...

Shawne Merriman '09 (last season he was healthy)

36 tkls 0 PD 4.0 sacks 0 FF 0 INT in 14 games

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The tests that they currently have are not designed to test the levels of HGH in ones system, they are made to distinguish between natural and synthetic HGH. So unless the players are actually harvesting HGH from other humans, then the tests will work fine.

Ah. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Because when they do get caught, the go from

Shawne Merriman '06 (last off-season he was shooting up)

63 tkls 8 PD 17.0 sacks 4 FF 1 INT in 12 games

to...

Shawne Merriman '09 (last season he was healthy)

36 tkls 0 PD 4.0 sacks 0 FF 0 INT in 14 games

shawne merriman also blew out his knee against the Titans in 2007

that year (when in your words he had stopped "shooting up") he had 12.5 sacks with 68 combined tackles.

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seriously it is mind blowingly stupid to say merriman's career ended in 2008 because he stopped doing PEDs in 2006, especially after his 2007 production and the injury that allowed him to only play one game the following year.

Merriman is stupid because he didn't immediately get treatment for the injury, but the idea that whatever he tested positive for was the reasons he was so dominant is

dumb

as

heeeeeeeelllllllllll

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also lol that usa today article is 3 years old

looks like someone doesn't understand how medical companies fish for funding

I didn't notice that, but you are right. However, this recent push by the NFL could mean that the study in the USA Today article has now moved past the vetting/testing phase and is ready for implementation.

EDIT: As of 4/13/10 Ceres Nano (the company developing the urine test) is ready to implement the first round of testing.

source

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seriously it is mind blowingly stupid to say merriman's career ended in 2008 because he stopped doing PEDs in 2006, especially after his 2007 production and the injury that allowed him to only play one game the following year.

My bad, I forgot about the knee. I was more using him as an example, there have been plenty of others throughout the sports world.

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well yeah there's david boston's hilarious body but it's impossible to say "well he wouldn't have done as well without this" in any meaningful fashion

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we do.

i went to bail and for whatever reason my hand got stuck right after my left arm died mid lift. came down on my left shoulder. it was my fault.

it was only 80 kilos and i'd just done 77 without a problem.

ah, i'm used to being in defend mode over cf being 'dangerous' so i had to attack your technique before i even knew what happened :cool:

anyways HGH should not only be legal but encouraged. there are a lot of benefits and just about no negative effects.

people who get so worked up about performances enhancers are milquetoast humans.

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I'd like to take the chance to rehash a post I made on this subject awhile back:

I don't know why they would go to that much trouble to prevent use of a substance that really has no scientific backing for increasing performance. The big advantage that is agreed upon is recovery and "general wellness." If anything, HGH should be an open option(with professional opinion) for athletes undergoing a recovery program. That's the most likely reason it's used to begin with.

- http://coachsci.sdsu.edu/csa/vol56/fourdrug.htm

- http://www.ispr.org/Why_is_HGH_illegal_in_sports.html

I personally don't have a problem with players using this in rehabilitation settings fwiw :chillpill:

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