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#1 Eazy-E

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:56 PM

I want to flip the script on you to see what your true opinion is.

Here is the scenario: Panthers have the number one pick. You all seem to be in agreement that Luck would be worth the #1 pick. Here is the twist. Luck is not the BPA. There is a better ranked DT, WR, and CB. Who do you draft and why.

Analyst are split saying we should take Luck #1 while others say we should take a different prospect. Everything about the Panthers and the NFL exist as it does this very minute. Also Cam Newton does not exist in this scenario so do not even bring his name up in this thread please.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:59 PM

Didn't you know?? Andrew luck is already in Canton. Nobody will ever be a better prospect than Andrew Luck. For you to even suggest that is blasphemy.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:01 AM

Andrew Luck is over-hyped.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:01 AM

I want to flip the script on you to see what your true opinion is.

Here is the scenario: Panthers have the number one pick. You all seem to be in agreement that Luck would be worth the #1 pick. Here is the twist. Luck is not the BPA. There is a better ranked DT, WR, and CB. Who do you draft and why.

Analyst are split saying we should take Luck #1 while others say we should take a different prospect. Everything about the Panthers and the NFL exist as it does this very minute. Also Cam Newton does not exist in this scenario so do not even bring his name up in this thread please.


If Luck is not the BPA, why would we all think he was worth the #1 pick? Some of us might not.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:02 AM

Didn't you know?? Andrew luck is already in Canton. Nobody will ever be a better prospect than Andrew Luck. For you to even suggest that is blasphemy.


...except that I've never seen a single person suggest that andrew luck would be so good he could change the game forever, whereas you've actually said that about Cam.

and yes. :beatdeadhorse5:

#6 Eazy-E

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:04 AM

If Luck is not the BPA, why would we all think he was worth the #1 pick? Some of us might not.


Same reason people who want Newton think he is worth the number 1 pick even though he is not the BPA. Not sure how you don't understand the idea behind the thread. If I can add something to the op to make it more clear please let me know.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:06 AM

I am not Mr. Scot, nor am I adamantly against drafting a QB, but I would say draft Luck either way. It has nothing to do with how good or bad the other prospects are. Luck doesn't need to be BPA, he just needs to convince you that he's a franchise QB. I don't think anyone who's arguing against Cam/Gabbert etc. are arguing this just because they think the other projects are better, they are arguing this because they think these QB's are bad prospects full stop.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:07 AM

You gonna get banned :eek:

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:09 AM

Same reason people who want Newton think he is worth the number 1 pick even though he is not the BPA. Not sure how you don't understand the idea behind the thread. If I can add something to the op to make it more clear please let me know.


I would take Luck, but this hypothetical scenario is different than the one we are in.

Whereas in yours luck is around the 5th BPA in our position of greatest need, Newton is roughly the 10th or lower BPA in real life, and not even the highest touted QB prospect in the draft.

I'm all for drafting a QB this year, I just want him to be the right one.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:09 AM

People, here at least, claim everyone fell for the Luck media hype and he isn't as good as claimed. If that is the case, then he wouldn't be hyped if he wasn't the BPA so he wouldn't have the same support. That makes it hard to answer your question since the reason so many want Luck is because he was considered the BPA.

Disclaimer: I never watched Luck so I have no idea how good he is. Just offering an opinion

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:11 AM

If this is about next years draft, then Luck isn't even the Consensus # 1 pick / best QB in the draft anymore.


He has a chance to be the 2nd or 3rd rated QB in next years draft. I think he ends up behind Barkley for sure, he has a chance ended up behind Landry Jones as well.

Theres also a chance that he still doesn't declare for next years draft.


Lets see if Luck can come even close to what he did last season on a loaded offense with a great oline and good running game.
I don't think he comes even close, I think he drops back to earth and his stats will look closer to his freshman numbers then the Sophmore numbers.


As for the general question, if you need a QB and you think one in the draft is worth taking at #1, then you make the move and draft him. Point blank simple

#12 Mr. Scot

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:12 AM

If Luck is not the BPA, why would we all think he was worth the #1 pick? Some of us might not.

Yep. Pretty easy question. The answer to this year's situation isn't any different just because you throw another name in.

If Luck were not the BPA at a position of need, we should take the guy who is. It ain't rocket science.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:13 AM

Luck doesn't have the character concerns that either Cam or Mallet have, so, it would make the decision a tad bit easier.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:14 AM

I would take Luck, but this hypothetical scenario is different than the one we are in.

Whereas in yours luck is around the 5th BPA in our position of greatest need, Newton is roughly the 10th or lower BPA in real life, and not even the highest touted QB prospect in the draft.

I'm all for drafting a QB this year, I just want him to be the right one.


Like I said I thought you guys would get the point but instead people keep making excuses. If I have to state that Luck = Newton just flip flop the two then I will. It seems that most people on here want a QB, WR, DT, or CB with the #1 pick. That is why I only referenced those 4.

#15 Eazy-E

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:15 AM

If this is about next years draft, then Luck isn't even the Consensus # 1 pick / best QB in the draft anymore.


I clearly state we are talking about the panthers as we stand right now. Not the panthers of next year.


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