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I don't blame Steve Smith...

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You guys don't know for a fact that Steve bullied Clausen. That's speculating. Plus we just learned that Clausen ignored coaching. That's probably why he threw it out of bounds all the time like a chicken sh1t. Hell I would be pissed too if I was trying to get open every play only to have my QB puss out and check it down or throw it away.

You didn't see him complain to Moore.

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JawnyBlaze    5,246

It's very obvious why he wants out... stats. I'm not blaming him just saying I think him leaving is a good thing for the team especially if they want Cam Newton to start on a clean slate.

:banghead:

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Jpjr    0

Oh my God please don't throw your hands up! Oh no, not the yelling! he's YELLING OMFG WHAT IS POOR JIMMY GOING TO DO WITH SOMEONE YELLING AT HIM. SOMEONE GET HIM HIS BLANKY....

these are grown ass men playing a grown ass sport. I could see if he jumped all up and down his ass, rode him, berated him, or went overboard with it. But you never saw Smitty do more than a brief demonstration of his frustration. And I never heard a mic'd up with Smitty saying "fug you Jimmy for not getting me the ball". I saw plays where he threw his hands up because he was wide open and wasn't thrown to. That's what ALL WRs do. That seemed to me to be more frustration with an abysmal offense and a sinking ship than "just get me the ball because I need my numbers" attitude. They seemed to me more like "come on, we had an opportunity to score our first TD in 3 games and you didn't even look at me..." gesture.

Actually, it was exactly a "just get me the ball because I need my numbers" attitude.

If it was about Clausen's rookie season he wouldn't be leaving because a new QB will be coming to town.

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Jpjr    0

You guys don't know for a fact that Steve bullied Clausen. That's speculating. Plus we just learned that Clausen ignored coaching. That's probably why he threw it out of bounds all the time like a chicken sh1t. Hell I would be pissed too if I was trying to get open every play only to have my QB puss out and check it down or throw it away.

You didn't see him complain to Moore.

Who cares about Clausen?

Steve Smith leaving has nothing to do with Clausen. In all likelyhood there will be a new rookie QB runnning the show this year... that is why he is leaving. He wants to play with a veteran, fair enough.

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JawnyBlaze    5,246

Actually, it was exactly a "just get me the ball because I need my numbers" attitude.

If it was about Clausen's rookie season he wouldn't be leaving because a new QB will be coming to town.

Well I'm glad you're so sure that you know things you couldn't possibly know. Care to get me some winning lottery numbers?

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bleys    1,995

You guys don't know for a fact that Steve bullied Clausen. That's speculating. Plus we just learned that Clausen ignored coaching. That's probably why he threw it out of bounds all the time like a chicken sh1t. Hell I would be pissed too if I was trying to get open every play only to have my QB puss out and check it down or throw it away.

You didn't see him complain to Moore.

I would love to see who is saying this considering all the sights I saw of Smitty pumping Clausen up before games..

anyone claiming that is full of shit and needs to quit sippin that hateraide..

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The_Cannon    282

The Smith wanting numbers thing is bullpoo. If he makes this move it's because he wants a ring, not stats. He is a douche but I'm pretty sure he only got mad that he wasn't getting thrown to because he knows he can be a game changer.

Yea he has said he doesn't want to be the #1 guy anymore and would prefer to just run out of the slot. I don't think it's his individual numbers (even though I'm sure he's hurt his 1K streak is over) but more so a ring. For a few years it looked like we could be serious long term players at the top of the NFL but now its going to take a lot to get us back there.

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I don't blame Steve Smith for being an über-competitive football player.

I don't blame Steve Smith for being frustrated with the recent state of affairs.

I don't even blame him for being downright angry.

I do, however, blame Steve Smith for punching is freakin' teammates.

I also blame Steve Smith for undermining teammates in the press.

I blame Steve Smith for throwing temper tantrums during professional football games.

Fire or competitive spirit is one thing. Being a fantastic douche-nozzle is another.

Look. The guy has the kind of athletic talent any football team wants. But his attitude, to turn a phrase, creates an oral vacuum, if you catch my drift.

The truth is, I don't know if the Panthers will be a more talented team with or without Steve Smith after the draft and other acquisitions are made. What I do know, however, is that this team doesn't need Prima donna buzzkills around breaking down a machine that's being re-engineered for a new era.

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bleys    1,995

I don't blame Steve Smith for being an über-competitive football player.

I don't blame Steve Smith for being frustrated with the recent state of affairs.

I don't even blame him for being downright angry.

I do, however, blame Steve Smith for punching is freakin' teammates.

I also blame Steve Smith for undermining teammates in the press.

I blame Steve Smith for throwing temper tantrums during professional football games.

Fire or competitive spirit is one thing. Being a fantastic douche-nozzle is another.

Look. The guy has the kind of athletic talent any football team wants. But his attitude, to turn a phrase, creates an oral vacuum, if you catch my drift.

The truth is, I don't know if the Panthers will be a more talented team with or without Steve Smith after the draft and other acquisitions are made. What I do know, however, is that this team doesn't need Prima donna buzzkills around breaking down a machine that's being re-engineered for a new era.

weak sauce.

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weak sauce.

Great response!

Let's just take his insistence on punching out teammates.

Is there really any justification for this in a professional environment?

The simple answer is no.

If knuckleheads want to do this in their sandlot games, great.

But what does this accomplish in the NFL. Nothing good, and I'm pretty sure you're smart enough to know that.

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Ruff    3,836

Don't blame him for leaving, and don't blame me for wanting him gone.

Steve Smith is a selfish player who cares about his throws and TDs and not the team. Would he agree with that? No. Would his actions? Yes.

He was an infection last year. Constant nuissance. Started the season by skipping camp thanks to flag football - resulting in ZERO chemistry with brand new receivers and QBs.

He is the opposite of who you want on a young team.

What do you guys think he would do this season when Cam Newton starts running around instead of threading accurate passes to him in double coverage? Smith has no tolerance for rookies trying to learn the game. He wants his stats and not much else.

Bye bye.

I feel the exact same way.

In the words of Bart Scott: CAN'T WAIT.

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SevenSixes    107

Steve Smith is phenomenally talented and most likely he will find himself in Canton. Unlike the vast majority of us who can slave at some meaningless job for decades on end, his career is far shorter. It gets even shorter when you have to suffer through the past two seasons with no consistency at the QB position and incompetency at the OC position.

The only question Smitty has to ask himself is "is this team going to get better any time soon?". If you could only do your job for another 5 years before being unemployed and you had a legitimate shot of being honored as the best at what you do of all time, would you leave your company that's struggling to survive for one that is widely recognized as a serious contender to be the best?

YES YOU WOULD!

As for getting mad at the cast of losers that he was surrounded with last year, I was pretty mad at the whole lot of them as well. Sure, I didn't punch one of them, but given the opportunity I just might have. At least last season only cost me a few thousand dollars in season tix I couldn't even give away, not endless days of training and cajoling my worthless team mates to do the job they were hired for.

I hope he stays because I love watching him on Sundays. Not to mention that he just looks great in Carolina blue. I think he might stay on for one more year to see if the RiveraRevolution is for real, but if the Bears or the Steelers come-a-courtin we'll probably have to watch his highlights on Total Access.

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p0sted    0

In a way, you can judge his motive by where he ends up. Top dollar for a mediocre team says one thing, League minimum to play for a contender...

Scuttlebutt says Atlanta might be looking to trade down for a shot at Green or J Jones. Smith would make a nice book end to Roddy White for a year or two if they can't get their rookie...

I'm all for players like Smith finishing their careers with their REAL team, but if he has to leave, I hope its out of the division.

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rayzor    10,326

if/when smith leaves he becomes irrelevant and if he plays for another team, he's the enemy.

personally, i can't blame the panthers for not wanting to fight to keep him around. when you are rebuilding a team, you're better off doing it with people who aren't grumpy old men on the downside of their career.

if he's got no interest in helping this young team come together then i've got no interest in keeping him around.

so long and thanks for the TDs, but we'll be better off without him if he doesn't want to be here and isn't interested in helping this young team grow.

he's taking a lazy way out but it's his prerogative. i just won't be a fan of his anymore. don't think he'll care anymore than i will, though.

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