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#151 Udogg

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 09:31 AM

From my 1 practice at Spartanburg and fanfest to me both QB's look OK in what they do. Jimmy is the same QB as last year however the ball comes out quicker(which is a good thing). However if we are going to get 8-10 out of the box then we need the ability to stretch the field and Jimmy doesn't give us that. Plus his body language kills me.

Cam's accuracy isn't pinpoint. Hell you could probably count on one hand the actual pinpoint accuracy QB's in the NFL. However he is not inaccurate(especially when his mechanics are good), and his athletic ability and size are tremendous. Also Cam throws the deep ball very well and just having that threat is enough to keep defenses respectful. Add to the fact that he can run the ball, you have to account for him. Throw in Steve Smith moving all over the field, Olsen and shockey, and Double Trouble plus goodsen how do you defend all of it?

Basically what Cam lacks in experience he makes up for with dynamic play ability. Putting Jimmy out there would suck the life our of both our team and our fan base.

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 10:49 AM

I believe you are all wrong. You say Jimmy will be the starter because he looks better the Cam? I’m starting to believe you guys are getting paid on the low, by Jimmy. LOl! Everybody that can see knows that Cam has a stronger arm, and make great decision, but you are willing to put a QB in the game that do not have NFL arm strength. Wow! All Jimmy does is check down. Not taking anything from Jimmy, but Mel K hype Jimmy up and it shows when he is on the field. He looks like a High school QB serious. And he is the one you all want to start. I’m so happy you guys are not calling the shots. Cam show better poised in the pocket, and he can see over the pocket as well. How many TD did Jimmy throw at Fan Fest? Cam had more than two. All standing in the pocket taking on pressure, and the ball was out of his hands less than 3 seconds.

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 12:31 PM

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Clausen is still not showing much ability and/or desire to throw past 10y


every day it is the same thing in practice......Clausen doing nothing but throwing safe and short. different day......same tweets.

then the Cam tweests start w/ him throwing TDs downfield (that doesn't mean he ain't flawed)......but Cam is trying to run the offense. Clausen is playing like he is afraid he could be cut (and based on what we have seen that might make sense).

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:14 PM

johnellis212 John Ellis
Clausen is still not showing much ability and/or desire to throw past 10y


every day it is the same thing in practice......Clausen doing nothing but throwing safe and short. different day......same tweets.

then the Cam tweests start w/ him throwing TDs downfield (that doesn't mean he ain't flawed)......but Cam is trying to run the offense. Clausen is playing like he is afraid he could be cut (and based on what we have seen that might make sense).


For everyone of those I will raise you a

Jimmy Clausen was praised for having a good practice by coach Ron Rivera. He said Newton did some good things but needs to be more consistent. He said the team will work to tweak Newton’s mechanics.


Come on man, seriously you point out every single bad thing that is said about the guy but yet post nothing at all bad about Cam? Could you please at least try not looking so hommerish?

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:21 PM

For everyone of those I will raise you a

Come on man, seriously you point out every single bad thing that is said about the guy but yet post nothing at all bad about Cam? Could you please at least try not looking so hommerish?


you aren't raising me.....

Clausen is consistent. I have stated that several times. He is consistently throwing the short routes and isn't making the type big plays Cam is.

Rivera was asked about Clausen and he gave a standard coach answer......nothing more. From the looks of things I may be off on Cam taking over preseason game 3.....he might get the tag preseason game 2.

Edited by CRA, 09 August 2011 - 01:23 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:23 PM

you aren't raising me.....

Clausen is consistent. I have stated that several times. He is consistently throwing the short routes and isn't making the type big plays Cam is.

I am not pointing out everything bad.....there is a consistent theme with everything being said about Clausen. Nothing coming out of camp supports your stance on the kid over Cam.


Either way it is "clearly obvious" Newton isn't ready. I mean they are going to work on his mechanics so CLEARLY he sucks :rolleyes:

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:26 PM

Either way it is "clearly obvious" Newton isn't ready. I mean they are going to work on his mechanics so CLEARLY he sucks :rolleyes:


I never said Newton was ready...he won't be (most aren't). But he will be a better option than Clausen (which is all I have said).

Cam needs a lot of work in the passing game. But he can already do some very good things. Clausen is more consistant with certain throws.....but he has shown virtually no ability to create any offense with those throws while with Carolina (camp, preseason, games, and back to camp again).

Edited by CRA, 09 August 2011 - 03:37 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2011 - 03:35 PM

FWIW, here's this dummy's 0.02 :

Clausen:
-accurate
-better under center
-poor posture...stance too wide, 3/4 delivery, plays smaller than his 6'2" frame
-very conservative with progressions and decisions
-lacks consistency with 20y+ routes to run the offense, as designed
-lacks confidence in his own ability to make throws in tights windows

Newton:
-not very fluid from under center
-not stepping into all throws
-still struggles with multiple reads
-nice touch on corner, post and fade routes
-excellent vision and size
-can make 20y+ throws under duress, in and out of pocket, with relative ease
-not afraid to take risks

Anderson:
-gives good pressers in Arizona


Lot of questions will reveal answers over the next couple weeks. It's definitely a heated battle. My edge goes to Newton.

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 03:39 PM

FWIW, here's this dummy's 0.02 :

Clausen:
-accurate
-better under center
-poor posture...stance too wide, 3/4 delivery, plays smaller than his 6'2" frame
-very conservative with progressions and decisions
-lacks consistency with 20y+ routes to run the offense, as designed
-lacks confidence in his own ability to make throws in tights windows

Newton:
-not very fluid from under center
-not stepping into all throws
-still struggles with multiple reads
-nice touch on corner, post and fade routes
-excellent vision and size
-can make 20y+ throws under duress, in and out of pocket, with relative ease
-not afraid to take risks

Anderson:
-gives good pressers in Arizona


Lot of questions will reveal answers over the next couple weeks. It's definitely a heated battle. My edge goes to Newton.


only thing I disagree with is you need to change that from 20y to 10y+ for Clausen.