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#31 Mvp2014

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 09:29 AM

Neither UPS nor Fed Ex make a stop at EVERY residential address and most business addresses 6 days a week.

Apples and oranges...


Good point.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 09:42 AM

I would say that 3/4 of the mail delivered is "junk mail" and sales papers and such. USPS does not charge enough for the bulk mail as it too has to go to every household just to be trashed.

The whole system needs to be re evaluated. I can have "junk" calls stopped from coming into my home, why not "junk" mail? Would the gov be better off spending money to help consumers learn about paperless systems rather than propping up a dinosaur which is sucking money out of the taxpayer.

Immediately stop the advertisements of the USPS. Love the fact that they spend money on tv ads promoting a product that loses tons of money. The more they sell, the more we lose.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:04 AM

So basically the only reason we have at this point to continue with the UPS is to send people jury summons less expensively?

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:33 AM

The Postal Service could jack up their prices the same way a private company would have to.


Except that the postal service relies on economies of scale that require a certain volume of mail. Increase prices, volume goes down, postal service goes further in the shitter.

I think the post office is just one of those services that government provides that we are just going to lose money on. Simple as that.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:38 AM

Except that the postal service relies on economies of scale that require a certain volume of mail. Increase prices, volume goes down, postal service goes further in the shitter.

I think the post office is just one of those services that government provides that we are just going to lose money on. Simple as that.

But we could lose less.

Reduce the number of delivery days and increase the cost (slightly ~.01/pc) on bulk mail.

That would go a long way towards reducing the losses.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 01:34 PM

Kramer went the 'no mail' route, and he ended up with a potato sack over his head in a back room somewhere. Not me man. No way. Bring on the Bed Bath & Pizza coupons!

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 01:40 PM

Wilford Brimmley was going to kick Kramers ass but the diabeetus and Karmer's remorse stopped him cold.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:09 PM

But we could lose less.

Reduce the number of delivery days and increase the cost (slightly ~.01/pc) on bulk mail.

That would go a long way towards reducing the losses.


Yeah I understand that entirely. A close friend is a higher up with the post office and agrees entirely with your plan of action.

Unfortunately, a certain group is standing in the way. Any guesses who?

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:18 PM

But we could lose less.

Reduce the number of delivery days and increase the cost (slightly ~.01/pc) on bulk mail.

That would go a long way towards reducing the losses.


Won't work, the gov't will just keep the same number of employees and only have them work 3 days a week.

Cut the delivery days to 3...stagger them in areas so you can have carriers working different routes on different days.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:22 PM

Basically they can run it like garbage pickup except 4x a weeks

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:27 PM

Not hard to figure out. Many ways to streamline an old dinosaur like this.

maybe the PO boxes get serviced every day but delivery to homes is only a couple times a week. That way, the PO box is more preferable and people come to the mail rather than the mail coming to them. Many many ways to change the system.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:37 PM

Is there anything that needs to be delivered by mail anymore?

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:53 PM

military no-bid contracts?





nah... they probably blow thousands overnighting those with fedex.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:55 PM

Is there anything that needs to be delivered by mail anymore?


Of couse there are. You can not assuming universal Internet access even today. In 2010 it was estimated that as much as 25% of residences did not have Internet access.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:56 PM

i get my checks by mail... those are pretty important.


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