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#76 Cat'sGrowl

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:16 PM

I'll never understand they blind love for Armanti. Is it because he went to App St? Is it because he was a stud in college? Surely not the latter because so was Eric Shelton and we ragged on him pretty quickly. Is it because he's a Panther? Surely not, because the hate for Clausen is epic... yet most people here gave Jarrett way too many chances.

So what is it? Why do some of you blame everything in the world but Armanti?


Two kinds of football fans.

Those who look at what happens, and those who look at the reasons for why things happen.

You've made it pretty clear which category you fall in with your input in this thread, but the other category is the group you are referring to in your post.

That's why I love black/white threads like this. It gives you a chance to see what posters really pay attention, which ones have credibility, whose opinion you can trust going forward.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:17 PM

All Im saying is Capt.>>>>>AE


Perhaps, but then again Steve Smith is probably still the best PR on the team, but he hasn't done it in years.

Starters are almost never return specialists.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:17 PM

What is there to "blame" on Armanti? He didn't choose his draft spot, didn't choose to have his position changed to PR and WR, he's just doing what the coaching staff wants him to do. Would Cam be to blame if we had converted him into a TE and he was mediocre at it?


You can blame him for not showing enough to get on the field yet as a WR, or make his own path as a returner as the better returners do. How much more time will you give the kid before you finally see he doesn't have "it". Will yo give him all of next year too?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:19 PM

I want to see Armanti succeed, but the Colts have lousy ST, so let's not get carried away just yet... I need to see him do it more then once.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:21 PM

Two kinds of football fans.

Those who look at what happens, and those who look at the reasons for why things happen.

You've made it pretty clear which category you fall in with your input in this thread, but the other category is the group you are referring to in your post.

That's why I love black/white threads like this. It gives you a chance to see what posters really pay attention, which ones have credibility, whose opinion you can trust going forward.


Ok then. Bump this when he puts up good stats as a WR. And if we ever get "good blocking" (Pilares likes our blocking, btw), bump this when he gets multiple nice returns. I'll eat crow.

That won't happen though. So stick to your project excuse, coach excuse, and poor blocking excuse.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:23 PM

Kick return blocking and punt return blocking isn't remotely the same thing.

For one thing you can't try to block a kickoff, it seems like our punt return team try to block the kick every time, never even get close, and leave Edwards with 5 guys unblocked coming right at him.

#82 La Pantera

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:24 PM

Armanti WILL be on the team next year, doesnt matter what his play this year was like. His first year was basically a red shirt year. If he doesnt improve in 2012 it will be his last. No way they give up on him after 2 seasons. Not Hurneys MO.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:25 PM

You can blame him for not showing enough to get on the field yet as a WR, or make his own path as a returner as the better returners do. How much more time will you give the kid before you finally see he doesn't have "it". Will yo give him all of next year too?


are you really surprised that a 4 year college quarterback is not a starting caliber WR on a TE reliant team? Hell why isn't Jimmy starting WR either? Armanti has been put in a crappy situation (that said, its probably the only situation possible that would give him even a chance to stick in the league). But theres nothing to blame HIM for. Except for being an undersized QB tryna make it in the league. Its not like he doesnt work his ass off

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:25 PM

:lol: What a cop out response.

Pilares has had just two decent returns this year, btw, in a completely different element d our special teams.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:27 PM

Perhaps, but then again Steve Smith is probably still the best PR on the team, but he hasn't done it in years.

Starters are almost never return specialists.


No perhaps, the numbers done lie. Also there is a deference in starting your Pro bowl WR at PR and starting your #2/nickle CB at PR.

Also the question has to be asked, What else can AE do? We already know Capt. can play at CB but AE is yet to even get a snap at WR from two head coaches. That says something right there.

I guess next year will be his break out season though just like Jarrett broke out last year...

Edited by Snake_Fist_Gung_Fu, 28 November 2011 - 12:29 PM.


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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:27 PM

I just don't understand why the Armanti homers think that any criticism of AE or the pick comes from some hatred for App State. I don't care if Ahmadinejad is our punt returner...all I care is how he PERFORMS. AE might be a great guy, and he was great for App... but so far, the proof is in the pudding. He is not an NFL caliber player.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:29 PM

No perhaps, the numbers done lie. Also there is a deference in starting your Pro bowl WR at PR and starting your #2/nickle CB at PR.

Also the question has to be asked, What else can AE do? We already know Capt. can play at CB but AE is yet to even get a snap at WR from two head coaches. That says something right there.


It sure does, god knows Capt had to beat out all kinds of talented corners to start for our team. Poor Armanti can't beat our any of our scrub WR's, he must suck.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:30 PM

If only our defense could force the opponent to punt more often, then Armanti would have been given more opportunities.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:31 PM

Kick return blocking and punt return blocking isn't remotely the same thing.

For one thing you can't try to block a kickoff, it seems like our punt return team try to block the kick every time, never even get close, and leave Edwards with 5 guys unblocked coming right at him.


Pilares has shown that either we do have ST guys that can do as they are asked, or he makes his own holes. I know PR blocking is different, but it's the same guys out there working. It's been how long since we had a KR TD? That may scream we have inept ST coaching, but at the same time makes Armanti come off poorly now that Pilares has had two solid returns in two weeks. You must also ask yourself if the guy that was blocked in the back would've affected Armanti's return making this thread pointless.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 12:31 PM

Ok then. Bump this when he puts up good stats as a WR. And if we ever get "good blocking" (Pilares likes our blocking, btw), bump this when he gets multiple nice returns. I'll eat crow.

That won't happen though. So stick to your project excuse, coach excuse, and poor blocking excuse.



Of course pilares will say he likes our blocking, he's not gonna call out or Special Teams.. Just sayin'


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