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#16 Panthers_Lover

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:48 AM

I'll tell you something. I've just finished my busy season where I interact with a large majority of my clients who come from all walks of life. I'm not talking a five or ten here but at least 50-60 meetings over the past month. Everyone's story is a little different but the anger is there.


But those are just rednecks and racists, so it doesn't really count, does it?

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:49 AM

But those are just rednecks and racists, so it doesn't really count, does it?


And look who's putting words in people's mouths...

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:49 AM

I'll tell you something. I've just finished my busy season where I interact with a large majority of my clients who come from all walks of life. I'm not talking a five or ten here but at least 50-60 meetings over the past month. Everyone's story is a little different but the anger is there.


You mean no one was happy about paying taxes?

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:50 AM

We're in Geauga cty. Cuyahoga county taxes are RUINOUS in sales tax and property tax. But income taxes locally are a function of being a township (don't have them) vs. city or village (have them). Geauga county doesn't have many cities or villages. And they have fewer population wise than Cuyahoga. Ohio state income tax blows also. Another reason to move to Tenn. :)
We couldn't have our small business in Cuyahoga, we've been declining in income as it is and the taxes are horrendous (we have to pay PA also).


I knew there was some differentiation between the Townships, cities and villages. Never fully took the time to understand. I would hear various family members compare and contrast Jackson Township vs. Perry Township etc.

Geauga Lake FTW.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:52 AM

But those are just rednecks and racists, so it doesn't really count, does it?


Not to those who feel they are intellectually superior to them.

I'm seriously wondering if we are going to see a repeat of the 1994 election again in a year and half from now when the people put the Pubs back in control of congress even though we were well out of the early 90's recession by that time.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:54 AM

I wonder what people were called who opposed and protested against Bush's policy.....Oh yeah they were Un-American.

I hope these people keep fighting for Warren Buffett and Paris Hilton


You wouldn't bang Paris Hilton?

#22 Panthro

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:54 AM

So where was the outrage when Bush gave out refunds to people? I mean he was just giving away our money to the poorz!!!

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:54 AM

You wouldn't bang Paris Hilton?


I love me some skanks

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:55 AM

You mean no one was happy about paying taxes?


Most of my clients know that they are paying the lowest rates probably ever in their lives right now and that will continue in 2009. Dosen't matter to them. This admin. has them upset and I can tell you that health care spending/reform was a big part of it rather than future tax increases.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:57 AM

Most of my clients know that they are paying the lowest rates probably ever in their lives right now and that will continue in 2009. Dosen't matter to them. This admin. has them upset and I can tell you that health care spending/reform was a big part of it rather than future tax increases.


What % of your clients would you say are republicans? You do live in a predominantly conservative area...just saying that they all might be outraged because its not their guy in the white house.

Which would explain their stance on health care

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:08 AM

I have clients in every tax bracket including many in the 10% bracket. Most probably lean to the conservative side of the spectrum.

"Socialism" is the biggest issue around here. Many feel that the bank bailouts are part of it. Perhaps the start of it. Rick Wagoner's forced resignation might have ended with a proper result but just the fact that the white house was able to do that has a very scary precedent attached to it. Many wonder if this is just the start of a "nanny state" and with the total control the dems have right now, the worries are real.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:48 AM

OH GOD!11!!!

We could end up as bad off as SWITZERLAND!!11!!1

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Look at those people BEING HELD PRISONER BY THE STATE!!1!!

#28 Matt Foley

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:55 AM

Obama should have come to the center after being elected. He owed too many people on the left too many favors and he has created this mess himself. Those of you who voted for him will say "No, it's not HIS fault people don't accept the election results."

Well leadership is about bringing people together for a common cause. These rallies and the libs making fun of them sure don't seem to suggest this country is coming together.

Clinton struggled in a similar fashion his first two years. Then he realized he needed to come to the center and he worked with the Repubs and look what happened.

Edited by Meat, 17 April 2009 - 09:59 AM.


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Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:59 AM

Well when it's obvious that the majority of the people (like yourself) are simply looking for excuses to get mad or dislike Obama. (OMG he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia!!!!11! WORST PRESIDENT EVAH!!1!! HE'S LETTING THE PIRATES WIN!!11!!)

I don't see what he could have done to placate you.

Sure he's made mistakes and he'll need to correct somethings, but worrying about those that are looking for any and all excuses to hate him would be counter productive.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:06 AM

Well when it's obvious that the majority of the people (like yourself) are simply looking for excuses to get mad or dislike Obama. (OMG he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia!!!!11! WORST PRESIDENT EVAH!!1!! HE'S LETTING THE PIRATES WIN!!11!!)

I don't see what he could have done to placate you.

Sure he's made mistakes and he'll need to correct somethings, but worrying about those that are looking for any and all excuses to hate him would be counter productive.


I could care less about the bowing thing, the pirates thing, the Tony Brown gift fiasco, etc.

The things that bother me are deeper than that. Why go after Rush Limbaugh? Why appear on Jay Leno? You're a President now. Act like it. Whether you like the people who listen to Limbaugh or not, you are now their leader. When you write them off and just veer left, these rallies are what you get.

How did those of you on the left feel when Bush ignored the NAACP? When he didn't do everything he possibly could to help the people in New Orleans?


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