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Good News For Saints, Only Two Current Players Named For Punishment!

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After a second day of meeting between Goodell and NFL players union, information on players likely to see punishment was just released. Of the names given, only Will Smith and Vilma are current Saints players named.

Luckily, Lofton was brought in to replace Vilma along with some new LB's such as Hawthorne. As for Smith, Saint were still able to win all the games he missed as well as have recent picks from past two years that spend last year IR, such as Greg Romeus. Romeus would have been a 1st round but was injured. After a year of NFL grade conditioning, Romeus has potential to be a great pass rusher and is like we got a 1st round pass rusher this year.

GM Loomis is only being punished after his work is done at beginning of season.

Asst Vitt only has 6 games and could be reduced.

Payton could still end up out the full year, but his mentor Parcells could step in and babysit as Payton has spent the past two weeks planning out the season and leaving tons of lists ready as well as will be able to have contact with the staff during th season!


Bottom line. For those that thought Goodell would gut the Saints and make them less competitive, looks liked the dream is over, NFC South Champs Saints with best offense in history and new and improved defense is coming! WHO DAT!

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Bad news for Saints. They're still a classless organization that is respected by no one but themselves.
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Lofton sucks and bad news for the Saints, is you lost your head coach, other coaches, GM(and if you think that he just works before the season, you are stupid. They are quite important to an organization) and all respect you ever had around the league. Nobody cares about that great story of you going to the superbowl anymore after Katrina. You will always be seen as a classless organization and not have any respect. Oh and other bad news for the Saints... Drew Brees. What's up with that situation. Is he still pissed at the organization and wanting out? Bill Parcells sucks. He hasn't had success in a long time and is completely out of touch with the NFL these days. He has to change everything about him if he wants any success. I realize you are trying to be very optimistic, if you know what that word means. But in all honesty, your Saints are screwed. No way around it.

Oh and would you like to make a bet? I bet that the Panthers will have a better offense than the Saints next year.

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333487768' post='1715996']
Luckily, Lofton was brought in to replace Vilma along with some new LB's such as Bunkley.
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Bunkley is a DT dumbass.

But you like most fans probably don't know anything about the actual sport and just pull for your 'who dats' because its the popular thing to do.

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Not only did Brees make a statment supporting Saints 4 days ago, he spoke to one of our fans yesterday and he still bleeds Black and Gold!

http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/saw-drew-brees-yesterday-227618/

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333488352' post='1716017']
Not only did Brees make a statment supporting Saints 4 days ago, he spoke to one of our fans yesterday and he still bleeds Black and Gold!

[url="http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/saw-drew-brees-yesterday-227618/"]http://saintsreport....sterday-227618/[/url]
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I wonder what colors he'll bleed when that tag is up.

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333488352' post='1716017']
Not only did Brees make a statment supporting Saints 4 days ago, he spoke to one of our fans yesterday and he still bleeds Black and Gold!

[url="http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/saw-drew-brees-yesterday-227618/"]http://saintsreport....sterday-227618/[/url]
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And he still hasn't signed. Your point is??

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Brees isn't going to play on the tag, they are working on a long term deal and have over month to complete it although everyone believes it will be faster than that.

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[quote name='jamos14' timestamp='1333488281' post='1716016']


Bunkley is a DT dumbass.

But you like most fans probably don't know anything about the actual sport and just pull for your 'who dats' because its the popular thing to do.
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Why isn't you can't have a conversation without namecalling!? I already had fixed it, I meant Hawthorne who was just signed today and is really good!


http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/saints-sign-lb-hawthorne-%5Bmerged-%5D-227634/


Saints still making good moves in FA. The defense will be much better next year!

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If this news had come out a few days earlier, the free Payton rally could've had 53 people show up!!!

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Hey Saints* fan. I have a couple of questions for you.

Do you think Drew Brees is worth 23M dollars a year? Why or Why not?

Do you agree with your GM of attempted to offer Brees 18M dollars a year? Why or Why not?

Do you know that Brees had said that he wouldn't want to play under the tag because the last time he did he injured his shoulder?

With the Saints signing all these players to contracts, do you think they have enough to pay Brees what he wants? Saints are tight against the cap at 1.4M.

Not trolling. Just asking questions.

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333488582' post='1716024']
Brees isn't going to play on the tag, they are working on a long term deal and have over month to complete it [b]although everyone believes it will be faster than that.[/b]
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haven't we been down this road before?

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[quote name='d4rkn1ghtcrawler' timestamp='1333504341' post='1716379']
Hey Saints* fan. I have a couple of questions for you.

Do you think Drew Brees is worth 23M dollars a year? Why or Why not?

Do you agree with your GM of attempted to offer Brees 18M dollars a year? Why or Why not?

Do you know that Brees had said that he wouldn't want to play under the tag because the last time he did he injured his shoulder?

With the Saints signing all these players to contracts, do you think they have enough to pay Brees what he wants? Saints are tight against the cap at 1.4M.

Not trolling. Just asking questions.
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As for contract here is best article to explain numbers. Basically the difference is in total paid in first 3 years, not the total amount. In a nutshell, instead of 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, he wants 23, 23, 23, 13, 13, 13.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Whats-Drew-Brees-worth.html


Basically all the fans think Brees is worth it, he has carried the franchise on his back. Look at Matt Flynn step in for Rodgers against the playoff bound Lions playing their hardest try and seed better. Flynn set Packers records that game that surpassed Rodgers. The same thing wouldn't happen with Saints. chase Daniel has been developing into a solid back and can keep the team competitive, but not on the level of Brees.



As for contract cap hit, there are tons of way to work the cap. On thing they have done to free up money is restructuring contracts and paying large signing bonuses that don't count towards that years cap in entirety. The only trick is you need to have a couple 20 million cash laying around, which our billionaire owner does. On the other hand Bucs are signing players who have to wait two months to get paid their signing bonuses. Pat Y of NFC South blog laid it out in an article explaining how Brees affects cap, I believe he is 15 mil hit with tag, but because of all the discounts and singing bonuses, even a 22 mil contract will have a cap hit of around 16.1 mil. I'll dig up article and post it.

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333507603' post='1716518']
paying large signing bonuses that don't count towards the cap. [/quote]

What fricken planet are you from? Signing bonuses are pro-rated and spread across the contract.

Signing Bonuses don't count against the Salary Cap, really! I guess I shouldn't be shocked you have no idea how the NFL works.
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[quote name='BlanksKarma' timestamp='1333601201' post='1718556']
What fricken planet are you from? Signing bonuses are pro-rated and spread across the contract.

Signing Bonuses don't count against the Salary Cap, really! I guess I shouldn't be shocked you have no idea how the NFL works.
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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333507603' post='1716518']paying large signing bonuses that don't count towards that years cap in entirety.

[quote name='BlanksKarma' timestamp='1333601201' post='1718556']
What fricken planet are you from? Signing bonuses are pro-rated and spread across the contract.

Signing Bonuses don't count against the Salary Cap, really! I guess I shouldn't be shocked you have no idea how the NFL works.
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LOL.. way to represent an already swamp land inbred infested fanbase... Alejandra, seriously, how do you wake up in the morning and look yourself in the mirror? or is ignorance truly bliss?

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yea the whole Parcels thing sounds like a GREAAAT idea

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333487768' post='1715996']
After a second day of meeting between Goodell and NFL players union, information on players likely to see punishment was just released. Of the names given, only Will Smith and Vilma are current Saints players named.

Luckily, Lofton was brought in to replace Vilma along with some new LB's such as Hawthorne. As for Smith, Saint were still able to win all the games he missed as well as have recent picks from past two years that spend last year IR, such as Greg Romeus. Romeus would have been a 1st round but was injured. After a year of NFL grade conditioning, Romeus has potential to be a great pass rusher and is like we got a 1st round pass rusher this year.

GM Loomis is only being punished after his work is done at beginning of season.

Asst Vitt only has 6 games and could be reduced.

Payton could still end up out the full year, but his mentor Parcells could step in and babysit as Payton has spent the past two weeks planning out the season and leaving tons of lists ready as well as will be able to have contact with the staff during th season!


Bottom line. For those that thought Goodell would gut the Saints and make them less competitive, looks liked the dream is over, NFC South Champs Saints with best offense in history and new and improved defense is coming! WHO DAT!
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I see no links to any credible source and you have proven to be the least credible of any source. At this point you are a troll who posts to get a reaction and puts up any kind of crap for attention. Until I see a list a list of punishments and layers I will put this along side your posts about how Brees is going to sign long term for the good of the team and how Payton is not going to get suspended, You are just a joke. Unfortunately a bad joke.

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333488582' post='1716024']
Brees isn't going to play on the tag, they are working on a long term deal and have over month to complete it although everyone believes it will be faster than that.
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Loomis has drawn a line in the sand and says he won't offer more. Bres says he won't play for less than 22 aa year for 5 years. You won't get it done for under 20 million a year. Unless the Saints pony up it isn't happening. Weren't you the one who said that a long term deal was around the corner 2 months ago before they franchised him. You are a joke and don't even know it. Then again you would have to show some insight to know that which you apparently have in short supply.

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I see no links to any credible source and you have proven to be the least credible of any source. At this point you are a troll who posts to get a reaction and puts up any kind of crap for attention. Until I see a list a list of punishments and layers I will put this along side your posts about how Brees is going to sign long term for the good of the team and how Payton is not going to get suspended, You are just a joke. Unfortunately a bad joke.
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As stated in original post, it was reported on NFLN and you had the rest of the day to see the story. It specifically named the players that were facing suspensions, Vilma, Will Smith, Fujita, Harvgrove, and Alex Brown or McCray, forgot last one. Regardless, only Vilma and Smith current Saints players, everyone else is with retired or on other teams. They did say many more would be punished, but in the form of fines.

Did a quick search and found this thread showing the same info was reported by Schefter on ESPN also:

http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/player-suspensions-will-focus-3-4-players-according-shefter-226369/

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This is from Steve Wyche. Since the ones looking at suspensions would have their cases looked at closely by NFLPA to verify evidence, then probably it's easy to figure out who will have a chance of being suspended by looking at which players have come into for interviews. Apparently only Vilma and Smith only current Saints players interviewed.

[b]Besides interviewing Saints players Drew Brees and Will Smith , as well as former Saints and current Cleveland Browns linebacker Scott Fujita , at the recent NFLPA meetings, the union has interviewed numerous players who were with New Orleans during the alleged timeframe of the charges, Atallah said.[/b]

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Holy poo Pat....are you still here.

You are actually spending time posting on this board and appear to believe that ANYONE here can give two shits what you think. How pathetic is your life that getting insulted on here is the highlight of your day.

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333735273' post='1720469']
As stated in original post, it was reported on NFLN and you had the rest of the day to see the story. It specifically named the players that were facing suspensions, Vilma, Will Smith, Fujita, Harvgrove, and Alex Brown or McCray, forgot last one. Regardless, only Vilma and Smith current Saints players, everyone else is with retired or on other teams. They did say many more would be punished, but in the form of fines.

Did a quick search and found this thread showing the same info was reported by Schefter on ESPN also:

[url="http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/player-suspensions-will-focus-3-4-players-according-shefter-226369/"]http://saintsreport....shefter-226369/[/url]
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Like I said this is not a credible source. This is the laughing stock of message boards.

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[quote name='Alejandro Lastra' timestamp='1333735736' post='1720479']
This is from Steve Wyche. Since the ones looking at suspensions would have their cases looked at closely by NFLPA to verify evidence, then probably it's easy to figure out who will have a chance of being suspended by looking at which players have come into for interviews. Apparently only Vilma and Smith only current Saints players interviewed.

[b]Besides interviewing Saints players Drew Brees and Will Smith , as well as former Saints and current Cleveland Browns linebacker Scott Fujita , at the recent NFLPA meetings, the union has interviewed numerous players who were with New Orleans during the alleged timeframe of the charges, Atallah said.[/b]
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The union is not the ones who will determine anything. They are doing their own investigation which may or may not be the same as the league. What you are doing is speculating from a homer perspective and puling the most positive spin you can. When the report comes out then we will all see what happens. Until then you have no more clue than anyone else. And please don't waste my time with talking head speculation about what might happen. Most of those folks are so in a hurry to report something they rarely verify their information or check the facts. until it comes from the league office, it is heresay at best.

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The union is not the ones who will determine anything. They are doing their own investigation which may or may not be the same as the league. What you are doing is speculating from a homer perspective and puling the most positive spin you can. When the report comes out then we will all see what happens. Until then you have no more clue than anyone else. And please don't waste my time with talking head speculation about what might happen. Most of those folks are so in a hurry to report something they rarely verify their information or check the facts. until it comes from the league office, it is heresay at best.
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My original post is ZERO SPECULATION, the story ran on NFLN, the announcer (I believe the reporter was Hansen), said some information has come out today regarding the players suspensions. They mentioned specific people that they were told were the ones facing suspension as opposed to just fines. As stated before, of the multiple names release, only two where current players.

This is me reiterating a story reported on NFLN. Also, in the link I gave you, it appears the same story also ran the same day on ESPN. There was no speculation in my post, nor was there any spin either. It was basically repeating the story ran on NFLN. This story falls directly in line with last weeks statements that said the suspensions would only be for the defensive captains and leader and the overwhelming majority of players would receive fines.

So basically, if you have issue with story, or of it turns out to be incorrect, etc. talk to NFLN, I, just repeating the story they ran.

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Shut up dumbass.

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