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Coples Vs. Derrick Harvey (08' Draft Bust)


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#1 mg32286

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:36 PM

Player / Height / Weight / 40 Time / Bench Reps / Sacks

Coples 6'6 284 4.78 25 10 as Junior, 7.5 as Senior

Harvey 6'4 278 4.84 31 11 as Sophomore, 8.5 as Junior




Harvey was drafted 8th overall in 08 and only has 8 career sacks. He's a bust.
He had better stats in college and the same questions about his motor just like Coples.

Doesn't look good...

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:39 PM

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:42 PM

This is going to be a massacre.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:45 PM

You can look at anyone in the draft and find someone with similar characteristics who ended up being a bust. It doesn't mean that the guy we pick will be a bust or that we shouldn't draft him. Threads like this are a total waste if the intent is to convince the masses whether we should draft him or not.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

The number one thing that scares me about coples is the fact his production went down from last year to this. If he can only manage 7 sacks in the acc I'm not sure how much more productive he will be in the nfl.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:57 PM

Not even close. Coples has more upside and a lot more athletic.

If Robert Quinn was a 14th overall pick last year, I think Coples is worth every bit of a top ten pick.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

mercilus whitney > coples and will be there around pick 15+

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:00 PM

That's like comparing Leaf to Manning....anyone could be a bust. Coples shows more of a drive than Harvey ever did. Plus this is Rivera coaching.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:05 PM

It is definitley a fair comparison as both are the top 10 pass rushers with similar size questions.

Here is one draft snapshot of Harvey off of Football's Future

Derrick Harvey DE 6'5 271 Florida 4.80
By: Robert Davis
Harvey redshirted his first season at Florida, then did not have much of an impact as a RS Frosh in 2005. Last year though, he developed into a consistent threat off the edge. He earned All SEC 2nd team honors after finishing the year with 35 tackles, 13 for loss, and seven sacks. As a junior with teams focusing on him, he still had a solid season. He finished with 41 tackles, 14 for loss, and 6.5 sacks.

Harvey has big time pass rush potential off the edge. He is an excellent athlete, with very good quickness and speed off the edge. He fires off the snap quickly, has the quickness and change of direction ability to get around the tackle, and the speed to close on the quarterback. Harvey has solid size and the frame to add more weight as he gets older.

As you might expect with an underclassmen, Harvey is not a finished product at this point. He does not hold his ground at the point of attack very well, which can get him taken out of running plays at times. He will need to get stronger to develop into more of an all around end. He also relies on his natural speed and athleticism too much to get to the QB.

Harvey has the upside and pass rush ability teams crave, and is a better prospect than Jarvis Moss was last year. He'll be a first round pick on draft day.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:06 PM

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:07 PM

Harvey was projected as a late 1st to early 2nd round pick. Jacksonville wasted #8 pick on him.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:09 PM

Cam Newton=JaMarcus Russell