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#25 SIGCHI222

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:25 PM

In Rivera I trust.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:42 AM

Just bc he was a nice story doesnt mean he is any good....he could get someone hurt.


Okay he was as good as it gets for an undrafted rookie being put in a starting role. Who you want ? Who? Tell me who. Shut up and let the kid play.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:14 AM

Love the culture around this team, love that Ron Rivera is our head coach. I hope we start seeing results sooner or later

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:04 AM

As soon as Rivera was inked, I had a very good feeling about our culture. It has grown into a neverending volcanic eruption of optimism...caint hep mysef



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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:15 AM

Otah wouldn't of rode the pine all yr....they would have cut him. Roster spot would have been open.


This right here is funny

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:36 AM

Yup, it's the antithesis of the Fox regime and it's about time.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:26 AM

Just to counter the OP...What could we get for a guy who has a history of one of the most serious injuries(Thomas Davis and ACLs)?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

Just to counter the OP...What could we get for a guy who has a history of one of the most serious injuries(Thomas Davis and ACLs)?


I see what you are getting at, however it is more about the simple fact of being a Carolina Panther.

Otah did not exemplify what it means to be a Carolina Panther, so he was shipped out. Traded, cut, anything... If you play the Panther way, D-Will, Beason, Kalil, Johnson, you will be retained, rewarded, and even arguably overpaid.

I understand TD's trade value is not the same, but how many teams would even give a guy with 3 ACL's surgeries an opportunity? We did, because he 'keeps pounding' :)

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:15 PM

I agree. I'd just lol if I were a gm and got a call about trading for a guy with TDs history.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:26 PM

I see what you are getting at, however it is more about the simple fact of being a Carolina Panther.

Otah did not exemplify what it means to be a Carolina Panther, so he was shipped out. Traded, cut, anything... If you play the Panther way, D-Will, Beason, Kalil, Johnson, you will be retained, rewarded, and even arguably overpaid.

I understand TD's trade value is not the same, but how many teams would even give a guy with 3 ACL's surgeries an opportunity? We did, because he 'keeps pounding' :)


They attempted to make Peppers the richest defensive player in the NFL a season after looking like he was in la la land and didn't give a poo per 95% of the board.

Hurney magic?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:31 PM

Rivera is no joke. Otah had his chances for years. He had to establish himself to rivera, clearly he failed miserably.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:44 PM

In speaking with a player I know several months ago he stopped short of saying Otah was lazy but inferred that he could have done more in rehab to prepare. He then said T Davis was one that went at rehab like he was playing the Superbowl. I guess his point was Rivera wants to see effort and Otah did not show enough of it.