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#31 Kettle

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:26 AM

Just to counter the OP...What could we get for a guy who has a history of one of the most serious injuries(Thomas Davis and ACLs)?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

Just to counter the OP...What could we get for a guy who has a history of one of the most serious injuries(Thomas Davis and ACLs)?


I see what you are getting at, however it is more about the simple fact of being a Carolina Panther.

Otah did not exemplify what it means to be a Carolina Panther, so he was shipped out. Traded, cut, anything... If you play the Panther way, D-Will, Beason, Kalil, Johnson, you will be retained, rewarded, and even arguably overpaid.

I understand TD's trade value is not the same, but how many teams would even give a guy with 3 ACL's surgeries an opportunity? We did, because he 'keeps pounding' :)

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:15 PM

I agree. I'd just lol if I were a gm and got a call about trading for a guy with TDs history.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:26 PM

I see what you are getting at, however it is more about the simple fact of being a Carolina Panther.

Otah did not exemplify what it means to be a Carolina Panther, so he was shipped out. Traded, cut, anything... If you play the Panther way, D-Will, Beason, Kalil, Johnson, you will be retained, rewarded, and even arguably overpaid.

I understand TD's trade value is not the same, but how many teams would even give a guy with 3 ACL's surgeries an opportunity? We did, because he 'keeps pounding' :)


They attempted to make Peppers the richest defensive player in the NFL a season after looking like he was in la la land and didn't give a poo per 95% of the board.

Hurney magic?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:31 PM

Rivera is no joke. Otah had his chances for years. He had to establish himself to rivera, clearly he failed miserably.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:44 PM

In speaking with a player I know several months ago he stopped short of saying Otah was lazy but inferred that he could have done more in rehab to prepare. He then said T Davis was one that went at rehab like he was playing the Superbowl. I guess his point was Rivera wants to see effort and Otah did not show enough of it.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:23 PM

They attempted to make Peppers the richest defensive player in the NFL a season after looking like he was in la la land and didn't give a poo per 95% of the board.

Hurney magic?


That was the old regime.

This is Rivera's team now. New attitude. New expectations.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

nice post, OP. I'm glad we finally got rid of Otah. I don't believe that his only problem was injuries. He might not have been as out of shape as people like to pretend he was, but the laziness and softness are true. I would have let him go for free. I'm glad we at least got something in return.

Your thread title is giving me diabetes though.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:27 PM

That was the old regime.

This is Rivera's team now. New attitude. New expectations.


All those players listed were paid before playing under Rivera

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:37 PM

All those players listed were paid before playing under Rivera


I'm sure reputations had to be known.

And last season reinforced them for certain players. TD, Otah, Goodson.

However, your point is taken.


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