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[mav1234]

MSNBC is apparently saying Paul Ryan is going to be Romney's VP... claimed 3 sources inside the campaign.

If it is Paul Ryan, thoughts on how it might change the election?

[gospodin shuttlesworth]

imo this prob gives florida to obama and potentially puts wisconsin in play for republicans. it will also hurt romney's eventual attempt to pivot to the center as he will repeatedly be called upon to explain his vp's dumb ayn rand stuff and attempts to end medicare. paul ryan is a desperation move; if they thought they were in a position to win by simply maintaining, they would have picked pawlenty or portman or some other old boring white guy.

[mav1234]

I don't think Ryan is popular enough to put Wisconsin back in play, but I guess we'll see. Obama has had mid single digit leads in the state for months and has never polled a tie or been down, so Ryan would have to be tremendously popular to swing things. I think this is more a push to generate some excitement and try to get people talking about Romney's campaign outside of the awful ads one side or the other is running.

I think this is about Romney trying to find his message. I still don't know what he is running on other than "Not Obama, cut taxes." Now he's got Ryan's ideology behind him I guess.

Also if you are right about Florida, Romney is done. Romney needs Florida.

[rodeo]

There's never been an alliterative President/VP before. Bad news for Romney Ryan. Take your poetry to a country appreciates it.

[gospodin shuttlesworth]

romney is not going to be able to pivot with ryan as his vp; he's going to have to double down on the crazy and it is going to own.

[mav1234]

were there even any issues left for romney to pivot on? I think he basically worked himself into a conservative 'corner.'

[gospodin shuttlesworth]

i'm pretty sure he was hoping to work his way back toward some semblance of rationality wrt healthcare, considering it was his biggest accomplishment as governor

also if he had no plans to pivot whatsoever then he had already given up. fug might as well pick jan brewer at that point.

[mav1234]

eh, at least this will get the base to the polls to vote, which may get them a few senate seats.

I really do think he's going to try to use this selection to define what his presidency will be like, to try to give him an identity beyond the vulture capitalist he has been painted as recently.

[Woodcookedbbq]

Ah yes, the evil/boring white guy.

As opposed to Obama's angelic/eccentric white guy.

[gospodin shuttlesworth]

welp it looks like poster woodcookedbbq doesn't have anything to add

we here at the tinderbox thank you for your non-contribution

[g5jamz]

Ryan's white...but boring he is not.

[stirs]

Pual Ryan is as great pick. Shows Romney is an adult and knows the seriousness of the situation our country finds itself.

Every part of government needs to be cut from defense, to socail programs, to medcaid, etc.

Anyone who thinks differently has their head in the sand and are the real "non-contributors".

You can bet that the left will show Ryan killing old people, heck, Joe Soptik's mom was most likely killed by Ryan.

Anyway, you will see intelligence and truth and a tough way out of our mess, met with stupid, shallow, kick the can down the road solutions from the left. I fear our country will be Greece in less than 10 years and mandatory cuts will not trim, but destroy programs. And of course by then, you will be rewarded by your allegiance to whichever party is in power by your program not being cut as much as non supporters.

Country is going to change exponentially very soon. And without hope.

The debt is our biggest threat, not Iran, not taxes, not jobs, not "war on women", not any one issue other than the debt, which will have dire effects on all of these other issues. Our economy will not come back without serious, painful decisions.

[Zod]

So Romney is really not interested in independents at all.


This election will be more of a blowout than I thought.

[Tensor]

So Romney is really not interested in independents at all.


This election will be more of a blowout than I thought.

This was my thought as well.

With this morning's selection, Romney has effectively given up before he was even officially nominated.

Ryan is a wet dream for conservatives that don't live in the real world where compromise (spending cuts across the board AND tax increases) is necessary, but he's an awful awful choice to appeal to moderates.

[g5jamz]

What's an independent supposed to think.

Ryan voted for Obama's TARP and auto bailouts.

Just because he had valid concerns over Obamacare and the budget? LOL...too funny. Biden will save us.