Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Will Kuechly start at MLB this sunday?

45 posts in this topic

Posted · Report post

Davis was in full pads today and it seems like he's gonna play this Sunday. Will Kuechly start at MLB or will Davis play with second defense?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

He should if they wanna actually practice a game day defense with Beason out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I'm not big on rookies trying to learn two different positions. The transition to the NFL is tough enough just focusing on one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

What? I hope Davis stays strickly as relief this year so that he gets one year under his belt even if it isnt as a starter. If he makes it through 1 year as a back up we know he is ready for the next step and we get limited production out of him in 2012 instead of 1 week of production.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='LinvilleGorge' timestamp='1345659808' post='1868028']
I'm not big on rookies trying to learn two different positions. The transition to the NFL is tough enough just focusing on one.
[/quote]

U do realize that he started at MLB vs Dolphins right? They had Jason Phillips as MLB for broadcast, but it was def Keuchly.


Plus it's his natural position, so not much of a learning curve there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='thunderraiden' timestamp='1345660187' post='1868035']
What? I hope Davis stays strickly as relief this year so that he gets one year under his belt even if it isnt as a starter. If he makes it through 1 year as a back up we know he is ready for the next step and we get limited production out of him in 2012 instead of 1 week of production.
[/quote]

Of course he's relief in the REG season, he'd only play two quarters if that, this Sunday.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Do I think Keuchly will start at MLB? No that is where Phillips plays. Phillips is Beasts back up. He needs the reps.

Then again, MLB is Keeks natural position. So when Davis is in at Will, Keek can play Mike.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='jtgreensboro' timestamp='1345660875' post='1868050']
Of course he's relief in the REG season, he'd only play two quarters if that, this Sunday.
[/quote]

You say that as if you have some fasinating insight. Everyone is ready to see what TD can do. They may limit him. Or they may run him to death and see how he responds. We have to find out if he can play. Let him run around for three quarters and see how he responds the next few days.

The longer Beast is out, the more important TD becomes. We have to see him play quite a bit in the next few weeks. If he can hold up, we are good to go. If he falters, we found out early.

I would not count TD out just yet.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I'd prefer him at the Mike spot.

But with that said, in this system he can be effective pretty much anywhere.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='iamhubby1' timestamp='1345661387' post='1868058']

You say that as if you have some fasinating insight. Everyone is ready to see what TD can do. They may limit him. Or they may run him to death and see how he responds. We have to find out if he can play. Let him run around for three quarters and see how he responds the next few days.

The longer Beast is out, the more important TD becomes. We have to see him play quite a bit in the next few weeks. If he can hold up, we are good to go. If he falters, we found out early.

I would not count TD out just yet.
[/quote]

So you would rather have Davis possibly get injured as a starter this season or have him be the number 1 back-up in the league at OLB at the league veteran minimum wage?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Does anyone think its possible Davis puts his knee woes behind him for good after good rehab and Dr.Andrews doing the surgery?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='iamhubby1' timestamp='1345661387' post='1868058']


You say that as if you have some fasinating insight. Everyone is ready to see what TD can do. They may limit him. Or they may run him to death and see how he responds. We have to find out if he can play. Let him run around for three quarters and see how he responds the next few days.

The longer Beast is out, the more important TD becomes. We have to see him play quite a bit in the next few weeks. If he can hold up, we are good to go. If he falters, we found out early.

I would not count TD out just yet.
[/quote]

What? I haven't counted TD out. If anything I'm optimistic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='The 910' timestamp='1345661712' post='1868070']
Does anyone think its possible Davis puts his knee woes behind him for good after good rehab and Dr.Andrews doing the surgery?[/quote]

I don't.

I'm just hoping he can stay healthy enough to play effectively in a reserve role.

Sadly, I think his days as a starter are over.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='The 910' timestamp='1345661712' post='1868070']
Does anyone think its possible Davis puts his knee woes behind him for good after good rehab and Dr.Andrews doing the surgery?
[/quote]

Not me.

I am prepared to witness and incredibly heart breaking and sad event. TD has the heart and work ethic you almost can only dream of when it comes to playing football. But his body told him no a long time ago.....he just won't listen.

Gantt said it best....he likely is too fast and explosive for his own body. The human body isn't suppose to do what these guys do on Sunday. Unfortunately it is only a matter of time IMO. Very minimal reps is his best shot of completing a full season....any constant role I just don't see happening.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I will be interesting to see how and where they use Davis.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='thunderraiden' timestamp='1345661669' post='1868068']


So you would rather have Davis possibly get injured as a starter this season or have him be the number 1 back-up in the league at OLB at the league veteran minimum wage?
[/quote] injuries are injuries. Ya play your best guys.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1345660423' post='1868040']
U do realize that he started at MLB vs Dolphins right? They had Jason Phillips as MLB for broadcast, but it was def Keuchly.


Plus it's his natural position, so not much of a learning curve there.
[/quote]


We were in an actual "4-3" set twice, maybe 3 times in the first half. Those times that we did run a "4-3" set Phillips was the Middle Linebacker.

90% Of the first half we played in a nickel set and Phillips was not on the field for those. So what you were seeing was 2 down linebackers and 3 corners, where Kuechly was in between the third corner(Munnerlyn) and the other linebacker on the field.

We also ran some 3-4 looks where Kuechly slid inside, but technically speaking he was not the Middle linebacker.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='panther4life' timestamp='1345663564' post='1868102']


We were in an actual "4-3" set twice, maybe 3 times in the first half. Those times that we did run a "4-3" set Phillips was the Middle Linebacker.

90% Of the first half we played in a nickel set and Phillips was not on the field for those. So what you were seeing was 2 down linebackers and 3 corners, where Kuechly was in between the third corner(Munnerlyn) and the other linebacker on the field.

We also ran some 3-4 looks where Kuechly slid inside, but technically speaking he was not the Middle linebacker.
[/quote]

I love how you throw out numbers to make your points. Me... never felt comfortable throwing around numbers.

90% or first have plays were nickel sets. Only ran a 4-3 maybe 3 times. I know you are just trying to make a point, but you cannot just make stuff up. It is just not fair, or right. Just busting your chops.

I agree that we used quite a few looks on D last week. 8, 9, and even 10 in the box which I saw twice. I love the versitility we showed.

Maybe all those looks were to protect Phillips? Give him some confidence and not overwhelm him? Or just get him off the field in passing situations?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

keep him at weak side

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

As long as he is on the field, I couldn't care less where he was. He is going to be a tackling machine no matter what position he is in. I would rather Davis not start. Just rotate in every couple of plays. But Whatevs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='panther4life' timestamp='1345663564' post='1868102']



We were in an actual "4-3" set twice, maybe 3 times in the first half. Those times that we did run a "4-3" set Phillips was the Middle Linebacker.

90% Of the first half we played in a nickel set and Phillips was not on the field for those. So what you were seeing was 2 down linebackers and 3 corners, where Kuechly was in between the third corner(Munnerlyn) and the other linebacker on the field.

We also ran some 3-4 looks where Kuechly slid inside, but technically speaking he was not the Middle linebacker.
[/quote]

I agree with you mostly. But I specifically remember him playing MLB on specific plays out of the 4-3.

The longest pass for Miami he was at true MLB, also had a deflection on a 3rd down as MLB, and stuffed a run playing MLB.

I understand that we used different wrinkles, but you're not completely correct.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I'd prefer if Kuechly start at LOLB because:[list]
[*]This is the position that we need him the most.
[*]He needs to continue to get the position down.
[*]Beason will be back soon enough so there's no need confussing Kuechly with two different positions.
[*]Kuechly will be more productive if he concentrates on one position.
[*]We need a LB that can cover TE's.
[/list]
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

lol luke is not going to be a back up...

he will start. Where is the ? but he will start...

not only because he is beast but you don't spend a 9th overall on a backup LB

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='Pass out of Existence' timestamp='1345667583' post='1868157']
lol luke is not going to be a back up...

he will start. Where is the ? but he will start...

not only because he is beast but you don't spend a 9th overall on a backup LB
[/quote]not sure anyone said he wouldn't start.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='thunderraiden' timestamp='1345661669' post='1868068']
So you would rather have Davis possibly get injured as a starter this season or have him be the number 1 back-up in the league at OLB at the league veteran minimum wage?
[/quote]

he could step in on the first play as a backup and get hurt.. neither scenario is a definite.. If he needs more time just to be safe then instead of risking anything he ought to be put on the PUP list..

otherwise, there is no half-speed on the field.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites