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#31 MemphisGambler

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:35 PM

I just dont get why some are so sensitive over Williams. Just be objective


The first down play calling was Fox like. Tampa was stacking the box with 8-9 and we were running horrilbe handoffs sideways out of the shotgun. Recipe for failure. It was terrible. Stewart, OJ Simpson, Earl Campbell couldn't have made chicken salad out of that shi*. OL got blown up all day and Cam had opportunities to throw to Deangelo out of the backfield but he didn't.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:41 PM

The first down play calling was Fox like. Tampa was stacking the box with 8-9 and we were running horrilbe handoffs sideways out of the shotgun. Recipe for failure. It was terrible. Stewart, OJ Simpson, Earl Campbell couldn't have made chicken salad out of that shi*. OL got blown up all day and Cam had opportunities to throw to Deangelo out of the backfield but he didn't.


Stewart doesn't take sideways read options.....

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:46 PM

6 carries, minus one yard.

Got flamed for saying he isn't all that a few weeks back. People said "do you watch the Panthers".

All the D-Will fan boys.

Dude is not a threat, whatsoever. He is a scat back. don't care what he did five years ago. He is a touch football player. Any sign of contact and he's on the ground. If Im seeing it I guarantee other NFL teams are.

Hilarious

DeAngelo can't create his own holes. If the O-line isn't doing their jobs, D Will can't do his. D Will is a good back, but I think that our o-line is more of a pass protection line than a run blocking line.

#34 MemphisGambler

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:59 PM

Stewart doesn't take sideways read options.....


No RB could have succeeded in that scenario with our OL getting no push. I get it. I know you think Stewart would have done better, but those first down run plays were so predictable and pathetic that no running back is set up to succeed on those calls. I believe that Stewart is a better inside runner. The play calling still sucked especially on first down. Stewart might have been able to mitigate the losses, but he wouldn't have done a whole lot better.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:03 PM

i remember when people used to say williams was the better rusher because he could make something out of nothing and stewart couldn't.



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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:04 PM

No RB could have succeeded in that scenario with our OL getting no push. I get it. I know you think Stewart would have done better, but those first down run plays were so predictable and pathetic that no running back is set up to succeed on those calls. I believe that Stewart is a better inside runner. The play calling still sucked especially on first down. Stewart might have been able to mitigate the losses, but he wouldn't have done a whole lot better.

We were running a zone read O without a zone read RB.....so yeah, the run didn't work. it doesn't work with Williams running horizontal zone reads. Stewart doesn't do that. if they collapse on Stewart up the gut it totally changes what the DL is doing ......they no longer can pin their ears back and pass rush all day.

OL isn't suppose to get great push on those plays......they don't know where the action is going. problem is we didn't have a RB to draw attention/focus up the gut. Williams was foolishly doing it to the outside....but that could of been Chud. Dont forget last year Cam asked for it...and Cam even did in game coaching with Williams last year on some option plays. Williams wasn't setting it up right.....he made Cam's correction and took an option pitch to the house.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:04 PM

6 carries, minus one yard.

Got flamed for saying he isn't all that a few weeks back. People said "do you watch the Panthers".

All the D-Will fan boys.

Dude is not a threat, whatsoever. He is a scat back. don't care what he did five years ago. He is a touch football player. Any sign of contact and he's on the ground. If Im seeing it I guarantee other NFL teams are.

Hilarious



and i'm guessing you think Cris johnson is good? he had 1 good year with a good O line and now look at him.... garbage, complaining about a new contract cuz he thought he deserved it after his 1 good year.... today 11 carries 4 yards... amazing

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:22 PM

Stewart doesn't take sideways read options.....


I didnt see any option to go anywhere with the pathetic blocking and Tampa daring us to run on first down. My 10 year old son was saying before the snap " Dad, we're about to run the ball and we are about to gain nothing. " Chud outsmarts himself sometimes.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:41 PM

Our O-Line is crap. They were good TWICE. And that was years ago when Double Trouble was smacking fools. People still think we have a top rated line. We don't. Gross is old, and everyone else sucks sans Kalil. Bell, a rookie, and Hangman... seriously???

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:48 PM

I didnt see any option to go anywhere with the pathetic blocking and Tampa daring us to run on first down. My 10 year old son was saying before the snap " Dad, we're about to run the ball and we are about to gain nothing. " Chud outsmarts himself sometimes.


But again, it isn't true run blocking being asked on those zone reads..OL doesn't know where the play goes. it is about making the DL collapse on the RB. Williams wasn't running in a spot to do that.....he was doing a zone read outside. It doesn't work....doesn't setup anything.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:21 PM

It would help if they ran more than 1 or 2 different running plays.....just saying

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:24 PM

and i'm guessing you think Cris johnson is good? he had 1 good year with a good O line and now look at him.... garbage, complaining about a new contract cuz he thought he deserved it after his 1 good year.... today 11 carries 4 yards... amazing


I think D Will and Johnson are similar cases to be honest.

Had amazing seasons around the same time several years ago. Lines are not as good... and a lot more tread on the tires... they're not the same player they were. RB's just dont last anymore

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:25 PM

It would help if they ran more than 1 or 2 different running plays.....just saying


Yea man I agree the damn delay shotgun draws are really annoying


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