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[CRA]

I'm glad to see it's not just my fellow Buc fans that overreact to one game. So Barron and David both played well in their first game and Kuechly didn't, that doesn't mean Kuechly won't be very good. Many Bucs fans wanted Kuechly in the draft. Hell, the guy that took Kuechly out of the game, Erik Lorig, many fans wanted him gone as a rookie despite the fact that he was a 7th round pick that changed from defense to offense. No one seems to have the patience to wait for the final product these days.

Barron didn't have a good game.....don't let hit as a player going to the sideline after a huge play allowed fool you.

Barron was targeted 7 times, allowed 5 rec for 91 yards and a TD. Cam's QB rating was through the roof when throwing at the rookie S.

David had a good game.....Barron and Luke both had week 1 rookie games

[Vertigo Jones]

I don't know enough about the responsibilities of the SS in the current Bucs defense to really be able to argue this. That said, the Bucs coaches were ecstatic with his play and he did have the game-saving defensive play with his diving breakup of what would have been a touchdown.

After the big hit on Steve Smith, Smith had no more catches until a 7 and 4 yarder late in the fourth quarter. There may not be a correlation, but there may be. Regardless, coaches raved about Barron + biggest defensive play of the game is good enough for me, especially since, as I said, I don't know enough about the X's and O's of the current defense to know his responsibilities.

[Johnny Kilroy]

I don't see how there can be a correlation between that hit and further catches.

[Vertigo Jones]

There might not be. Steve Smith is one of the toughest players in the league, so there probably isn't. Big hitters have gotten into the heads of receivers pretty much throughout football's history, though.

[CRA]

I don't know enough about the responsibilities of the SS in the current Bucs defense to really be able to argue this. That said, the Bucs coaches were ecstatic with his play and he did have the game-saving defensive play with his diving breakup of what would have been a touchdown.

After the big hit on Steve Smith, Smith had no more catches until a 7 and 4 yarder late in the fourth quarter. There may not be a correlation, but there may be. Regardless, coaches raved about Barron + biggest defensive play of the game is good enough for me, especially since, as I said, I don't know enough about the X's and O's of the current defense to know his responsibilities.

Coaches raves about Luke all preseason....and week 1 after his first series.

Barron needs work in pass coverage. He was shaky all preseaon as it. I think he will be a stud....but for right now....teams will target him.

His hit on Smith wasn't anything IMO. Tampa have up a 30+ yard play. He hit a WR on his way out.

He had one nice pass break up. He should of had a a nice play or two as much action was going is way.

[CRA]

There might not be. Steve Smith is one of the toughest players in the league, so there probably isn't. Big hitters have gotten into the heads of receivers pretty much throughout football's history, though.

Yeah....but Steve Smith has proven to feed off contact. Hitting Smith after a 30 yarder isn't going to discourage him.

Issue was the next drive Cam threw a pick first play. Next drive another pick.

[jtnc]

There might not be. Steve Smith is one of the toughest players in the league, so there probably isn't. Big hitters have gotten into the heads of receivers pretty much throughout football's history, though.

Yes, Smith is scared.

[Johnny Kilroy]

There might not be. Steve Smith is one of the toughest players in the league, so there probably isn't. Big hitters have gotten into the heads of receivers pretty much throughout football's history, though.

Yeah but the hit was after a run, not directly after the catch. And plus, it all depends on if he is targeted and what not. We didn't see him "alligator arm" or shy away from contact.

[CRA]

Steve Smith loves contact arguably more than any WR in the game....he hopped right up and then gave the rookie the Mutumbo finger wave.

Let's not a make a hit on a WR going out of bounds something that there is nothing to support it being

[Vertigo Jones]

Barron needs work in pass coverage. He was shaky all preseaon as it.

This just isn't correct. He didn't play in game one or four, played one series in game two and in game three, they held the Patriots to one rushing touchdown in the first half and he had an INT for a touchdown.

Also, to all the responses, I acknowledged Steve Smith's toughness. I think it's most likely just a coincidence that he wasn't involved in the game plan after the big hit.

[CRA]

This just isn't correct. He didn't play in game one or four, played one series in game two and in game three, they held the Patriots to one rushing touchdown in the first half and he had an INT for a touchdown.

Also, to all the responses, I acknowledged Steve Smith's toughness. I think it's most likely just a coincidence that he wasn't involved in the game plan after the big hit.

It was a tipped ball against NE......tip drill. not coverage. Making a play yes, not an example of coverage ability

Barron had one good pass breakup....but overall wasn't good in coverage Sun....the opposite. I like the kid. David had a good game.....Barron had one good play.....with a lot of bad. Those type hits don't register as anything in my book. We have some guys on our team that will make those hits and they don't impress

[Vertigo Jones]

Well, agree to disagree. I'm sure you guys have little interest in talking about a Buc, so I'll just say what I originally intended...I think Kuechly will be very good.

[jtnc]

This just isn't correct. He didn't play in game one or four, played one series in game two and in game three, they held the Patriots to one rushing touchdown in the first half and he had an INT for a touchdown.

Also, to all the responses, I acknowledged Steve Smith's toughness. I think it's most likely just a coincidence that he wasn't involved in the game plan after the big hit.

At times it looked like Carolina had determined that with Cam Newton (+0.1) at the helm they could immediately morph into the Al Davis’ Raiders. Passing deep (20+ yards) on 24% of throws was more, on average, than any QB attempted last year, and certainly not very successful. Throwing mostly post and go routes against the Buccaneer cornerbacks, Newton eschewed the vulnerable short middle of the field where rookies Lavonte David and Mark Barron were suffering growing pains; for example on the second offensive play of the game when Barron completely lost Greg Olsen.

https://www.profootb...caneers-week-1/

[FirstRoundPick]

I do.

71 yards - 1 TD. Over a season that 1136 and 16TDs. So based on that data I do not think Graham got shutdown today. Of course, I didn't see Kuechly on Graham once during the game, so we either have an idiot coaching staff that choose not to shutdown the Saints* best receiving target, or our coaching staff knew that he didn't have the ability to do so which is fair because no LB can take on that assignment on their own.

[TheRed]

Pssst, we won today FRP. Don't let me interrupt your wrist cutting session though.