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#251 Darth Biscuit

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:49 PM

Care to provide links to any of that?


Here's links about the ammo thing... no idea how legit these sites are, never heard of them... they do appear right leaning.

http://freebeacon.co...tted-live-ammo/

http://www.kforcegov...h_12000175.aspx

She did not permit US Marine guards to carry live ammunition, according to USMC blogs. Thus she neutralized any US military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.



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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:50 PM

As far as oil goes, my understanding is that we can't really get our own oil unless we nationalize the industry which everyone would have a poo-fit over. Oil is fungible... there really isn't any way to only use american oil without dramatically changing the infrastructure (and even then i'm not sure it's possible.)


I'm sure someone smarter than me can expand on this further.


eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kinda last i saw was that it was that we would have to redo all the transport routes to our existing reefineries and do a rework of the transport routes to get the amounts out but if you combined that with the keystone pipeline you could get the oil indepence (not sustanability) in 8 years. To get out of the me you would have to do keystone anwar and a massive investment in South America. Oh and build about 10 more refineries. You would also have to deal with green peace and their legal guys fighting every inch of the way.


So yeah allost impossable.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:51 PM

I'm not exactly sure. This could be the coup de grace of PNAC, or a manufactured start to WWW3. I'm not exactly sure, but this is only going to get worse. This isn't going to just go away into obscurity. We are going to be forced to act, and whether that was all part of the plan is debatable. I don't know exactly where this is heading, but no course looks very good.


This is what I've been getting at across all of the threads - from the China/oil deal, to these "protests," the major powers either dividing or consolidating power... It's not looking good.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:51 PM

Here's links about the ammo thing... no idea how legit these sites are, never heard of them... they do appear right leaning.

http://freebeacon.co...tted-live-ammo/

http://www.kforcegov...h_12000175.aspx


Yeah, I had read that. It was the only one of the things that he listed that I had read. Still, links would be nice.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:54 PM

Here's links about the ammo thing... no idea how legit these sites are, never heard of them... they do appear right leaning.

http://freebeacon.co...tted-live-ammo/

http://www.kforcegov...h_12000175.aspx


free beacon is respectable k force is iffy
as far as the others yes i will as soon as i can (at work so whenever i get a sec)

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:05 PM

eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kinda last i saw was that it was that we would have to redo all the transport routes to our existing reefineries and do a rework of the transport routes to get the amounts out but if you combined that with the keystone pipeline you could get the oil indepence (not sustanability) in 8 years. To get out of the me you would have to do keystone anwar and a massive investment in South America. Oh and build about 10 more refineries. You would also have to deal with green peace and their legal guys fighting every inch of the way.


So yeah allost impossable.



plus keystone would be built to facilitate the export of oil... it wouldn't help... again, fungible.

you gotta create an entirely self contained, nationalized oil infrastructure. We'd be better of converting everything to CNG.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:19 PM


Libyan authorities have made four arrests in the investigation into the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in which the U.S. ambassador and three embassy staff were killed, the deputy interior minister said on Thursday.

"Four men are in custody and we are interrogating them because they are suspected of helping instigate the events at the U.S. consulate," Wanis Sharif told Reuters.

He gave no more details.



http://news.yahoo.co...-175308342.html

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:42 PM

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UPDATE: “With or without a weapon, Marines are always armed,” Pentagon spokesman George Little said Thursday afternoon. “I’ve heard nothing to suggest they don’t have ammunition.”
Senior U.S. officials decline to discuss it, but it’s clear there were no U.S. Marines protecting U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and his beleaguered staff at the Benghazi consulate Tuesday night. Marines are routinely posted to U.S. diplomatic outposts around the world, but the “interim” facility in Benghazi apparently was defended only by a handful of U.S. security officers and local hires. The Marines have let it be known that the two unidentified U.S. officials who died at Benghazi were not Marines.
As any Marine’ll tell you, if there had been Marines at Benghazi, they’d be among those killed.


Read more: http://nation.time.c.../#ixzz26NtI4ipS



At this time place the Lybian after action details in pending as upon further reveiw it was based on UNNAMED and therefore not worth paper not matter where posted. When I get 2 rep sites or 1 big name to sign of ill post the link (my bad for not deep diving scource before sorry guys)

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:47 PM

libya dude. libya. not lybia.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:48 PM

http://abcnews.go.co...ed#.UFI8lkbCz8A

One of those dead in Libya former Navy seal...

One of the Americans killed alongside Ambassador Christopher Stevens in an attack on a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya Tuesday told ABC News before his death that he was working with the State Department on an intelligence mission to round up dangerous weapons in the war-torn nation.
In an interview with ABC News last month, Glen Doherty, a 42-year-old former Navy SEAL who worked as a contractor with the State Department, said he personally went into the field to track down so-called MANPADS, shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, and destroy them. After the fall of dictator Moammar Gadhafi, the State Department launched a mission to round up thousands of MANPADS that may have been looted from military installations across the country. U.S. officials previously told ABC News they were concerned the MANPADS could fall into the hands of terrorists, creating a threat to commercial airliners.


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