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So you want a new GM huh?..Check this out and maybe you'll reconsider.

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Good stuff. Thanks.

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I appreciate the information, and it is broken down well, but. . .(and I've said this nine millions times before. . .)

Hurney gets the players the coaches want. During the Fox era he got Fox-type players. With Rivera he's investing in Rivera-type players. So judging either way will require keeping in mind that he picks on behalf of the coaching staff far more than other GMs, who generally love to think they are smarter than their coaches and pick who they want instead of who the coaches ask for.
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Props for the research .. I wish there were more threads like this.

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Good read...

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so all this to justify, ... what exactly? Hurney refusing to strengthen problem areas in Free Agency?

Every year like 85% of the teams have picks in the first round of the draft. Free Agency is not necessarily something you "build a team with" as much as it is a tool to help you gain a competitive advantage, and it can be a very valuable tool. The Giants for example have signed players to fill gaps that they didn't have enough draft picks to cover over the years, and they don't automatically extend every player that has started recently for them that they drafted. Just this last offseason, they let Manningham, Jacobs, and Ross walk. When you're looking at a team's talent mapped on a chart, you can't conclude just because they have more draft picks than FA acquistions on their roster makes them a team that by definition "builds through the draft". Everybody relies heavily on the draft to fill their roster. This doesn't mean that Hurney's got his finger on the pulse of what is working in the league.

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The funny thing is even if Hurney simply only signed one bona fide starting free agent a year or traded for a guy that a team would like to dump for reasons other than lack of talent (i.e. Adam Carriker, Asante Samuel, Keith Rivers) he would have a better team and he would still have enough money to sign all the core players he drafted that he would need.
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I think a lot of people are upset with this team and Hurney because they have tunnel vision and just look at the problems on this team and say "it's the only flawed team in the league" and point out our shortcomings after week 1.

Well, after the games so far:

The Saints* defense was a sieve.

The Eagles terrible offensive line is going to get their injury prone quarterback killed.

Ditto for the Bears.

Ditto once again for Green Bay.

The Bills expensive new defense can't stop a nosebleed.

Basically, in this period of free agency, you are going to have team weaknesses that are going to be exploited sometimes. It sucks, but it's hardly unique to us. Hurney isn't a moron neglecting areas of the team; it's just the nature of the league.

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Ah the old 'It could always be worse!' argument.

Truly the American Dream.
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Good post. You're never going to convince the Always Angry People though.

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[quote name='MLP_RB' timestamp='1347698984' post='1899821']
The funny thing is even if Hurney simply only signed one bona fide starting free agent a year or traded for a guy that a team would like to dump for reasons other than lack of talent (i.e. Adam Carriker, Asante Samuel, Keith Rivers) he would have a better team and he would still have enough money to sign all the core players he drafted that he would need.
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Here's starters or top backups he signed or traded for the last 2 years.
2012. Tolbert,Nakumara,Louis Murphy,Dwan Edwards,Medlock
2011.Olsen,Shockey,Applewhite,Hangartner,Jason Phillips


Thats just the last 2 years, plenty more if you go back before he was prepping for the lockout(Jerry's order's)

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there are 2 division rival GMs ahead of Marty based off your research but yet we should be content that their is no one better.
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