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#46 FireMarshallBill

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:04 AM

LOL...they got a mind coach for Cam and not Steve..Now that is hard to believe.

Did they get one for Jimmy also? and why not? Wasn't Steve "the bully," breaking him down mentally also? Could have save you folks lots of money and just gotten a Therapist for Clausen instead of a new QB for Stevie to mentally destroy. Unless you fans get a kick out of watching your psycho recevier tear up his QBs instead of dealing with his own ish.

I wish I had a bridge to sell you.

Smith had to take anger management classes. But I guess that you wouldn't know that because you weren't around here white knighting for newton back then.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:14 AM

LOL...they got a mind coach for Cam and not Steve..Now that is hard to believe.

Did they get one for Jimmy also? and why not? Wasn't Steve "the bully," breaking him down mentally also? Could have save you folks lots of money and just gotten a Therapist for Clausen instead of a new QB for Stevie to mentally destroy. Unless you fans get a kick out of watching your psycho recevier tear up his QBs instead of dealing with his own ish.

I wish I had a bridge to sell you.


The Panthers did actually insist that Smith get anger management training and he did.

Look, I put out hard money for the product the Panthers put on the field. I save for it all year. Tickets to watch ridiculous preseason games at full price, gas to the games, food, and sometimes hotels because I live so far away.

I'm old now. I don't have time to wait another 10 years for the next great 'believe' project.

i wanted Newton here. I still want him here. He is rare athlete and at his heart, I believe a good person. To ask a 23 year old to bear the weight of a franchise is a lot,

This could be a good and turning point for him in his young life. Sometimes being the best athlete isn't enough. Some times we lose. It isn't a problem if we learn from it.

I wish the Cam the best. If this is true, and it helps him, good for the organization in recognizing what is easily seen and helping him see it too and helping with it.

We will learn an awful lot about the Panthers and Cam in Atlanta. What I have seen so far, if the other team is physical, and hits them in the mouth, they shrink. My hope is they will learn to hit back before I die.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:16 AM

He's got some kind of weird ass Cam fetish going on and now he's mad at Smitty for crawling Cam's ass. It's best to just try and ignore him.



Actually, I don't have some kind of "weird ass Cam fetish." Unlike you, I call things as I see it. I'm not a homer. I don't sit there and pretend there is nothing wrong with my team and everything is the QB's fault.

I support two teams, the Gaints and Jets. Both those teams have QBs with their own issues. Believe you me, I was just as pissed when the Jets threw Sanchez to the wolves that is our media. I called it as I saw it with those fans also when they got on that silly media created The Golden Calf of Bristol circus.

Some of You are quick to arrogantly mock other team fans but look how you behave when you lose a game. You now have your QB having mental issues and seeing a shrink. Name a team with that sort of behavior getting anyway near a Play-off nevermind SB.

Could you seriously see any receiver on the Saints doing to Drew Brees what Smithy has been doing to his QBs for years. Glad to see you folks rewarding bad behavior simply because it's not being called out by the media but you're quick to create false images of other players when the media makes it okay.

#49 h0llywood

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:19 AM

Yes I remembered that one...

How quickly they forget as soon as they run out and got him another QB to take his issues out on..


1) Steve Smith can pout all he wants. His resume speaks for itself and he can do whatever the hell he wants.
2) Steve Smith is a better person than you and Cam Newton put together, x 10. To judge Smith as a person for something that he did a few years ago is pretty stupid. To quote David Stern, "Do you still beat your wife?"
3) Steve Smith was 100% right in what he did. He is THE captain of the team and it is not only his role, it's his responsibility to berate a player on the team who doesn't meet the minimum standards, i.e. support your team. I guess you had no issues when Kalil and Gross did the same thing to Newton last year.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:23 AM

Actually, I don't have some kind of "weird ass Cam fetish." Unlike you, I call things as I see it. I'm not a homer. I don't sit there and pretend there is nothing wrong with my team and everything is the QB's fault.

I support two teams, the Gaints and Jets. Both those teams have QBs with their own issues. Believe you me, I was just as pissed when the Jets threw Sanchez to the wolves that is our media. I called it as I saw it with those fans also when they got on that silly media created The Golden Calf of Bristol circus.

Some of You are quick to arrogantly mock other team fans but look how you behave when you lose a game. You now have your QB having mental issues and seeing a shrink. Name a team with that sort of behavior getting anyway near a Play-off nevermind SB.

Could you seriously see any receiver on the Saints doing to Drew Brees what Smithy has been doing to his QBs for years. Glad to see you folks rewarding bad behavior simply because it's not being called out by the media but you're quick to create false images of other players when the media makes it okay.


Correcting a player was considered bad behavior since when? The problem here is not what Smitty did to correct Newton but rather YOUR personal problem with Steve Smith.

What kind of football fan roots for the Giants and the Jets? That's like rooting for the Red Sox and the Yankees, Alabama and Auburn and the Lakers and Celtics all in one.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:23 AM

The fact that he has a mind coach period is a Huge Red flag imo...

He just needs to remove his head from his ass, man up, and come through in the clutch. It will happen, hopefully sooner rather than later.



Yep, he's such a bitch.

He needs to start blocking for himself, stop calling gimmicky college plays and of course play D.

What a fuging pussy.

#52 Floppin

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:24 AM

Actually, I don't have some kind of "weird ass Cam fetish." Unlike you, I call things as I see it. I'm not a homer. I don't sit there and pretend there is nothing wrong with my team and everything is the QB's fault.


I'm pretty sure that literally no one on here has this opinion.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:25 AM

To me it was not S.S job to do that regardless of him being a captain, but rather the coaches that should be handling that. That speaks once again to our HC position

Far as what S.S did, it was simply just advice which was true. If it was a blowout victory, don't stand there on the sideline and support the D and have fun, but if its a bad loss just sit on the bench

Far as the shrink and all that go, I have to hear it more and directly from just ESPN

#54 Shufdog

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

Correcting a player was considered bad behavior since when? The problem here is not what Smitty did to correct Newton but rather YOUR personal problem with Steve Smith.

What kind of football fan roots for the Giants and the Jets? That's like rooting for the Red Sox and the Yankees, Alabama and Auburn and the Lakers and Celtics all in one.



He said he's a Giants fan but he was pulling for the Panthers Thurs. Go figure that out!

#55 TruCatzFan

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:26 AM

Yep, he's such a bitch.

He needs to start blocking for himself, stop calling gimmicky college plays and of course play D.

What a fuging pussy.


You should seek help. Perhaps a life coach?

#56 nctarheel0619

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:28 AM

I'm pretty sure that literally no one on here has this opinion.


Damn right nobody does. It's a team sport last time I checked.

#57 Miaoww

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:32 AM

You should seek help. Perhaps a life coach?


Why should I seek help?

Steve Smith is not a champion of all that is good and right. He sucker punched TWO teammates. He bullied a rookie QB. He kicked out at an opponent and (basically) lost a game for the Panthers.

Now he's calling out Newton in the media.

He's a great football player, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't give him the time of day off the field.

Newton is a 2nd year pro who has the hopes of the franchise weighing down on his shoulders. He is who he is - people are trying to force him into being something he's not. So what if he sits on his own on the bench? So what if he doesn't look enthralled when the OC is running through the previous series.

Is he productive? Does the team follow him? Yes. That's all I need to know. Not every QB has to be Peyton fuging Manning.

We have MUCH bigger problems than Newton taking losses to heart and being bitchy with the media.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:36 AM

cam needs to grow a nutsack and stop being a little puss. plain and simple.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:41 AM

The Panthers did actually insist that Smith get anger management training and he did.



In all honestt, I have done a lot of observing of both this team and the fanbase.

I am a lover of this sport. I have my favorite teams but I always want talented players and teams to succeed. I get extremely frustrated at the clownishness we now accept in our sports media. When those fools can sit in a chair and read all kinds of ish into a player simply because they know folks will take everything they hear and hear and run with it, it really bothers me. I was quite vocal when the media was constantly doggind Eli and questioning his talent. I am now quite vocal with how they are treating Sanchez vs. The Golden Calf of Bristol.

I don't like foolishness. Nor do I care for those who make a living off of these athletes by picking and choosing which one they are going destroy with their immature games. IMO, they are not only destroy this sport but very talented players.

IMO, both Cam and Stevie are alike in many ways but how they handle their anger. They both are very passionate players. The difference is Smitty shows his anger and Cam internalizes his. Don't see why we're all angry at Cam for not being like Smitty. Don't get why you would feel he's not a mature person because he's not running around trying to cheer up his team. That is down right silly. There are folks with that personality and you folks know that. I can get you not all 31 QBs are out there cheering up their players after a lost.

When folks jump on Cam for such foolishness as him sitting with a towel and is using to to feed the already media created image of him, I have no respect for those fans because IMO,they are hurting their team to get at a person they don't seem to realize it.

Smitty has anger issues. I can say that with all sincerity but what I see happening is the media now projecting Steve's issues unto Cam instead of holding Steve responsible for his own demons.I'm sure Cam has enough issues of his own. It's not fair that he's now stereotyped with mental issues because the media love Steve more. That is extremely immature.

Like I said before, our media has a tendency of role reversing with the players they don't care for. The negative things they see in a players they like, they will re-created in the image of a player don't care for. IMO, Cam is being set up by the media to fail because they cannot be wrong and they have already set out to paint him as another VY..

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 11:41 AM

Newton is a 2nd year pro who has the hopes of the franchise weighing down on his shoulders. He is who he is - people are trying to force him into being something he's not. So what if he sits on his own on the bench? So what if he doesn't look enthralled when the OC is running through the previous series.

Is he productive? Does the team follow him? Yes. That's all I need to know. Not every QB has to be Peyton fuging Manning.

We have MUCH bigger problems than Newton taking losses to heart and being bitchy with the media.


How do you know? In just this last game, we had Dwill refusing to let go of a read option hand off when Cam tried to pull it back and Smith jawing in his ear. It's very easy for people to make the argument that the team is starting to not trust Cam on the field. The reasons for that are two fold: a play standpoint and a leadership standpoint. When you make bad decisions with the football and aren't using good leadership skills to make up for it players begin to second guess you as a leader and will subsequently try to make things happen on their own.

Is it possible that this is all just circumstantial bullshit? Of course. Look I love Cam, and I know without a doubt that the major problems on this team, from a production standpoint, are not Cam's at all. However to ignore any issues that he might have, especially with leadership, is detrimental to his development and will provide problems in the long run. For Cam to have long term sustained success as an NFL QB he has to learn how to lead and the sooner he does the better.


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