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#37 Banjo



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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:32 AM

I think the issue is Cam:
  • Terrible against the Saints in Week 17... we can't even close out the season on a good note.
  • Terrible in the Pro Bowl... yes, the PRO BOWL. And we were all like "who cares, it's just the Pro Bowl..."
  • Terrible in the preseason, especially against the Jets. And of course the excuse was "oh, it's just the preseason, who cares..."
  • Terrible against Tampa Bay. Maybe Tampa has a good defense. I'm not sure. No excuse for this.
  • We pound the Saints, but turns out all they have the worst defense in the league, so not as impressive as we all thought.
  • Cam no shows against the Giants. Disgusting loss against a team that could absolutely be exploited. I'm still disgusted.
  • Then we take it to the Falcons. The game gives me hope. I almost think we have a chance of competing in the division.... until the Panthers chicken out of a 4th & 1 and let Roddy White catch a pass he should have no business catching. Still, this is Cam's best game so far.
  • And now Seattle... turns out they has a legit top 5 defense. And of course, Cam and crew look like chumps.
Major adjustments need to be made. I'd like to see a signature win for once. The Cowboys are not a great team... let's start with THEM! And if we manage to beat the Bears at their place, I will believe in Cam and this team again

#38 Marguide


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:48 AM

You know what I find amazing? Everyone here wants to b!tch about McDermott and the defense, but at least they seem to be showing some improvement week to week. I see emotion when they are on the field. Yes, there is still way too much confusion and missed assignments, but they still look like they are headed in the right direction. And that is especially true with Luke at MLB.

On the other hand, the offense seems to be taking a step back. Put it all on Cam if it makes you feel better, but the vast majority of our offensive starters seem to be underperforming this year.

Give me a choice right now of keeping either McDermott or Chud and I'm picking McDermott.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 04:15 AM

I almost clicked "like this" on the OP...until the last paragraph.

#40 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 05:45 AM

Yeah but if Cam is put in a position to succeed, like throwing to an open receiver, not sure how the majority of the blame can be placed on the play call.

I understand what you are saying but Cam should be able to make that pass. It's not too much to ask for.

Agreed. I wasn't really fond of the play call either, but the receiver was open.

And that wasn't the only short pass Cam missed Sunday. He missed several of them, mostly screens and outlets.

And to be fair, the receivers dropped some when he was on target so it wasn't all his fault. And then there were fumbles by the normally sure handed running backs. The offense was not mentally ready to play Sunday.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:51 AM

Each and everything you read about Cam has to do with his attitude and demeanor. The skillset is there. Cam hasnt had a very good year but we all saw what he did last season. The tape is out and now its time for Cam to adjust..and he will.

#42 I Mean He Was Found Guilty

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:22 AM

This year 2012!! Yeah Armanti can run it better and he don't throw lame duck passes to open guys in the end zone! :rolleyes:

the point is that he can obviously run a pro offense because he has demonstrated he can. do you think he forgot how to or something?

edwards has 12 career rushing yards on two attempts and two career completions for 11 yards. he's also a hideous bust considering draft position and probably the out and out worst trade our general manager has ever made. stop posting.

#43 rayzor


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:40 AM

sorry, but cam is most certainly an issue. not THE issue, but an issue, one of many.

there is no one culprit that is responsible. lots of blame to throw around. cam deserves just as much as any. i'm not letting him off the hook anymore than anyone else. the coaching staff, cam, smitty, the OL, the defense...all of them deserve a lot of blame.

cam can grow out of it, but it's not anymore a guarantee that it happens as it is that smitty will grow up or the coaching staff will get their crap figured out.

cam did things that cost us games this year. he wasn't the only one doing it, but he absolutely had a hand in it just like others did. blaming it on others isn't going to fix things. fortunately he isn't blaming others. his problem is, though, quite the opposite. he's putting too much of this on himself. there isn't anything the coaching staff can do to stop that, tho. that's one of those things that is 100% on him alone.

i know what cam's kryptonite is, or at least where it is...it's between his ears. the only one that can beat cam is himself. when cam feels defeated or he feels he's in a whole, he brings the whole team with him, just like he did at auburn and blinn except in the opposite direction. cam can pull a team up to the top of the mountain or drag it into the depths of sheol. should he have that power? doesn't matter...because of his infectious personality and his position, he has it. it's up to him what he's going to do with it.

#44 Doc Holiday

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:54 AM

I didn't realize the team was called the Carolina Newtons?

I wish we had more Panthers fans and less Cam newton fans, to say the current issues with the team isn't in part Cams fault would be like saying gravity is not what holds us to the ground.

With that said Cam is our franchise QB and he's still very new to the nfl and there are going to be some growing pains along the way, if you didn't think there would be you need to reality check.

Players are never what there worse or best efforts that is maybe 2-3 games a year they are what the other 13 games are that season and Cam just had his worse game since probably high school.

So don't panic and don't freak out, and at the same time don't deny what is the truth either.

I believe it was once said "it is what it is"

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:30 AM

The Panthers should have never even been in the position of 4 and 1, and needing a touchdown to win with less than 2 minutes to play. They had 3 tries to 'get it in the endzone' and failed. Boneheaded playcalling all day led to this.....Cam was struggling and the coaches should have adjusted early in the game.

Run the stinking ball with Stewart and Williams, and then run it some more. The Panthers are asking and expecting too much from a 23-year old 2nd year QB to carry the entire offense. I guarantee that if the Panthers establish the run, the pass will 'all of a sudden' become very successful and Cam will become more like 'last year'. How many of you want our franchise QB as the top rusher on this team? Well, that appears to be the Panthers plan if you look at the plays.

#46 Snake


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:36 AM

Been saying its the coaching staff for a while and have been bashed for it

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:21 AM

Still trying to defend this guy? Psh

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:04 AM

Fumbles happen. Ask Williams....Stewart, Smitty, anyone. Effort plays result in those sometimes....

Bottom line is if Carolina needs a yard the ball should stay on the ground. yeah, Cam messed it up on the pass....but the right call last week and this week was to go for it on 4th down....ON THE GROUND. That is where the documented success is for the scenario......so pointing that out is just Chud always doing the unneeded.

This is the truth. Our problem is our coaching staff doesn't trust Cam in does situations. He fumble last week picking up the first down and now this week he couldn't hit the TE for a TD. Our team has some huge flaws and it is headed towards a disaster.We are in a too much of a deep hole to climb ourselves out. 1-4 to start this season is terrible if you look at our schedule.