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To put our suckyness into perspective

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In John Foxes first year, Rodney Peete was the starting QB, and we started 3-0. This coming off an awful 1-15 season, and Fox had the same players mind you. We ended up 7-9, winning 4 out of our last 5. In his season year, Fox went to CAREER BACKUP JAKE DELHOMME and started 5-0, and of course, ended up a John Kasey kick away from winning a Super Bowl.

Ron Rivera punted the ball on a 4th an 1 from the 45 with a 6'6 260 QB that would have won the game.

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Big deal. Everyone needs to stop pining for the glory days.
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[img]http://aeryssports.com/fishy-situation/files/2012/07/ohNO.jpg[/img]

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Ron Rivera has, by far, the worst win percentage through 21 games of any Panthers head coach ever. Even a lot worse than George Seifert.
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7 wins in 21 games

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[quote name='Sam Mills Fan' timestamp='1349741261' post='1939845']
Ron Rivera has, by far, the worst win percentage through 21 games of any Panthers head coach ever. Even a lot worse than George Seifert.
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So and this is interesting because THIS team is way better than any team John Fox ever had here, and he won.

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So and this is interesting because THIS team is way better than any team John Fox ever had here, and he won.
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Offence is but the defense is not.

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[quote name='Not-Awesomeness' timestamp='1349926187' post='1943296']
So and this is interesting because THIS team is way better than any team John Fox ever had here, and he won.
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compare fox's 2002 and 2003 defenses to ours

really, go ahead

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[quote name='Snake' timestamp='1349926490' post='1943305']
Offence is but the defense is not.
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The only year our defense was actually top tier was 2003 when we everybody on the line was a stud and our secondary actually belonged in the NFL. Every year after that we had a lot of injuries, and it was never really that consistent, and a lot of patch work and good coaching went into our decent defense. I agree on the offense.

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2002 we had the 2nd best defense in the league, when del rio was the coordinator

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john fox has also won exactly 1 more game than we have this season.

peyton manning is his quarterback by the way.

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[quote name='X-Clown' timestamp='1349926958' post='1943315']
2002 we had the 2nd best defense in the league, when del rio was the coordinator
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we fielded an elite defense in 2005 too.

2006 we were also very, very talented on paper. like position by position possibly the best defense in the league talented.

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