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I dont blame cam for what was said but as a leader of this team, if your gonna to call out bullshit, you do it behind closed doors. In front of the press, Cam really should have acceptable resposibility for the loss. He is the leader. Thats what leaders do.

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Heres an idea, let the $80 mil back field do something for a change.

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I dont blame cam for what was said but as a leader of this team, if your gonna to call out bullshit, you do it behind closed doors. In front of the press, Cam really should have acceptable resposibility for the loss. He is the leader. Thats what leaders do.

The thing about closed doors is we don't know if it was already said behind closed doors and ignored.

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I love Cam, I am 100% behind him and his attitude. Its refreshing to see a kid with such passion for the game. Our FO was slowly sufficating this team.

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Blaming Cam is lazy.....but a good way to get page clicks and viewers. Nothing more.

He is far from perfect....but no 23 yr old with 1 yr off college ball with a NFL team on his shoulders for his first 22 games will be.

Actually, IMO absolving Cam of blame for this season is lazy and may indeed be a contributing factor to the Panthers woes.

Listen, noone is dumb enough to place the entirety of the disappointment on Cam's shoulders. But as it stands now, Cam now has a 7-15 career record. When you look at other QB's like Luck, RGIII...it seems like those teams are starting to show improvement in tangible ways and they can claim to have fewer weapons at their disposal than Cam.

To be fair, they are going through their rookie honeymoon periods, similar to what Cam went through last year when the Win/Loss record didn't matter so much as the fact that a giant hope arrived.

But if we're calling a spade a spade, Cam has not dealt with adversity very well so far in his career and it's an area that despite his prodigious physical gifts and talent could go a long way in submarining his long term outlook.

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Cam didn't actually call out the coaches....

He just called out everyone that was tied to the mess.....and included himself.

He said "I don't know if it's the coordinator" and "I just run the plays that are called." I don't know what else he has to say to be considered "calling out coaches"?

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Listen, noone is dumb enough to place the entirety of the disappointment on Cam's shoulders.

yeah really who would be dumb enough to do th-

But as it stands now, Cam now has a 7-15 career record. When you look at other QB's like Luck, RGIII...it seems like those teams are starting to show improvement in tangible ways and they can claim to have fewer weapons at their disposal than Cam.

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Cam rings bells. Got damn.

Peyton Manning couldn't even make poo happen like that.

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I dont blame cam for what was said but as a leader of this team, if your gonna to call out bullshit, you do it behind closed doors. In front of the press, Cam really should have acceptable resposibility for the loss. He is the leader. Thats what leaders do.

He's done that for a year and a half now. At some point, you have to just call it what it is. Hell, I would've probably already blown up at the podium and said, "Look, what the fug do you want me to do??? I'm stuck in a broken scheme and I'm getting beat to death out there running for my life or waiting for these bullshit slow developing plays to never develop!"

I honestly think it's part of the reason why he sulks so much and sounds so scripted at pressers after losing. It's a conscious effort on his part not to blow the fug up.

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yeah really who would be dumb enough to do th-

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I'm getting sick of the Cam hate as well. Look, does he make some bad throws? Yes. Is he having a hard time losing? Yes. Do you want him to be OK with losing? I sure don't. He's in his SECOND year and he spoiled us last year with an amazing year. We expected him to have an All-Pro year this year but that wasn't fair. For one, defenses had a complete training camp, and also, they had a full year of tape on Cam and this gimmick offense.

It was never fair to expect Cam to carry this team in the first couple years anyway. We have spent a TON of money on running backs, and we hardly use them. We should be running 30-40 times a game with the money put into the run game and not making Cam carry us, at least not right now. The playcalling is handcuffing him.

I can't count how many times we start a new set of downs by either A) Losing yards on an option run or B) Getting 1-2 yards. I know 1-2 yards happens sometimes, but when you are doing it EVERY set of downs, you're putting unrealistic weight on Cam's shoulders. Is he pressing? Of course, he doesn't accept losing, and he shouldn't.

It is too early to start calling him Scam, and saying he's a bust. Let's see him in a real offense, like these other QB's have been able to use (minus maybe RG3). Getting mad at the guy for commercials or clothing lines, is just stupid. Not one person on this board wouldn't do the same thing in his position. The NFL is a dangerous game and at any moment you could run into an injury that takes you out forever. Make it while you can is what I say, and I don't blame him.

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Cam Newton

-21st in passing yards per game

-23rd in QB rating

-27th in completion percentage

-Total turnovers 9 (6 interceptions, 3 lost fumbles)

-7-15 record as starting QB

Also keep in mind he chokes late in games.

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