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I was never jealous of people on welfare, until today.


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#91 g5jamz

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:01 AM

The biggest thing that ticks me about this is when I see people selling their food stamps for .50 on the dollar. If you need food stamps, then you would expect them to be used for food - not sold for 1/2 price so you can buy beer and cigs.

There is a Piggly Wiggly here in town that you can sit in the parking lot and watch this happen every month like clock work.


Catch them on hidden camera and post on Youtube.

Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes authorities need embarrassing...as do people to begin to do things right.

#92 gospodin shuttlesworth

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:15 AM

anyway here's some rappers performing for a crowd whiter than a fuging klan rally, rapping about things like cutting class, smoking pot, cannibalism, punching pregnant women, and killing their moms



man white culture is fuging awful right? i'm sure that disparity in poverty, sentencing, incarceration, and mortality rates will close any day now

oh here's another



that one is literally titled "kill people burn poo fug school" and it seems like all of those precious little (white) snowflakes know every single word. seriously what the fug is up with white culture goddamn i'm sure all of those thugs went out and burned down hundreds of schools upon hearing this song because rap music is basically wizardry and let's face it: it's cool to be a gangster. it's not cool to be well-read.

and btw my comments on the white culture of violence, homophobia and sexism are totally valid because i went to school with white people

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:43 AM

hahahahaha

please explain to the class how you know what degrees i have and what degrees i do not have tia

also please explain why having a degree in sociology leaves you free from criticism when you post such "theories" as "poor AA mothers have more babies because they're hoping to win the genetic athlete lottery" or whatever the fug you were trying to say when, in actuality, fertility rates and poverty have a significant relationship across cultures and throughout centuries



but can't you see? you're the racist! don't ask me to explain why; you'll have to talk to madhatter about that



the majority of rap consumers are white. rap music is marketed to white people.

see: escapism
stop: trying to talk about black culture



this is incredibly obvious but remember who you're talking to here

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We should just all conform to your logic.

It is ALL society's fault....there is no personal accoutnability.

Drop out of school...don't worry that is not your fault.

Don't want to do homework and get an education...don't worry that is not your fault.

Don't want to get out of bed and go to work...don't worry that is not your fault.

Commit a crime and go to jail...don't worry that is not your fault.

The lack of ANY accountability by you and others sickens me.

I am not talking about race....I am talking about the lack of accountability of self respect across all races.

There are many people out there who are busting their ass every day to make ends meet and needs a helping hand....and that is what these programs should be for. Not the lazy people who are capable of working and spend their day sitting on their lazy asses.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 05:39 PM

GS you bring up some interesting points i hadn't thought of before, but your argument (regarding the effect of violent music/media not being a serious sociological influence on people) has a flaw IF it turns out that the white people who are at those concerts are more likely to commit crimes demographically (by way of socio-economic status or whatever.)

or are you simply saying that rap culture/violent media isn't a causal force but a by-product of something already existing?

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:31 PM

music should be treated as social commentary. it shouldn't be used to suggest that black people are just more susceptible to being influenced by violent music and thus will never achieve social equality (as is the implication when disregarding relevant variables, such as socioeconomic status and pervasive discrimination)

there are literally millions of white people who listen to some violent poo. to suggest that inequality is borne out of music ignores the fact that white people live longer, make more money, don't serve the same sentences for the same crimes, and are incarcerated at much lower rates than black people.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:51 PM

at the end of the day, it's white peoples grasp of sarcasm that gives them the edge.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:25 PM

music should be treated as social commentary. it shouldn't be used to suggest that black people are just more susceptible to being influenced by violent music and thus will never achieve social equality (as is the implication when disregarding relevant variables, such as socioeconomic status and pervasive discrimination)

there are literally millions of white people who listen to some violent poo. to suggest that inequality is borne out of music ignores the fact that white people live longer, make more money, don't serve the same sentences for the same crimes, and are incarcerated at much lower rates than black people.


Lemme spell this out, doll.

I added a footnote at the end of my post about the difficulty of changing an anti-educational culture when your media glorify anti-education. I did not say the media cause anti-educational sentiment (though plenty of sociologists do).

You proceeded to go ape poo and attack only this point as though it's my main argument, because it was an easy strawman that you could pretend to be righteously flabbergasted by.

You and your logic are fuging pathetic. Stick to socialist racist monologues about how rich white capitalists are destroying everything. They make you seem much wittier than you are, sweetheart.

#98 gospodin shuttlesworth

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:49 PM

you see guys, black people just have an "anti-educational culture" and they glorify this "anti-educational culture" in their music, therefore.... (nevermind the fact that rap music is no more defined by "anti-education" than country or rock music and oh by the way major labels market rap music to white people because white people purchase the most rap music)

i mean really idk what your black friend told you but replacing "systemic racism and white privilege" with "culture" as the reasoning for the fact that black people make less money (controlling for education and experience), are incarcerated at higher rates (controlling for variety of offenses), are given longer sentences (controlling for offense), and die younger than white people is fuging racist as all hell, unless you're maybe talking about american "culture" and white privilege, and the symptom of centuries of oppression (trap music or something else along those lines)

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:12 AM

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#100 gospodin shuttlesworth

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 01:31 AM

surely not the dude blaming black culture for social inequality

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:08 AM

you see guys, black people just have an "anti-educational culture" and they glorify this "anti-educational culture" in their music, therefore.... (nevermind the fact that rap music is no more defined by "anti-education" than country or rock music and oh by the way major labels market rap music to white people because white people purchase the most rap music)

i mean really idk what your black friend told you but replacing "systemic racism and white privilege" with "culture" as the reasoning for the fact that black people make less money (controlling for education and experience), are incarcerated at higher rates (controlling for variety of offenses), are given longer sentences (controlling for offense), and die younger than white people is fuging racist as all hell, unless you're maybe talking about american "culture" and white privilege, and the symptom of centuries of oppression (trap music or something else along those lines)


Literally ignoring the fact that I called out redneck culture and country music in the same fuging post you just spent two pages shitting yourself over.

It's time to change your diaper, sweetheart.

#102 gospodin shuttlesworth

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:24 AM

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yet for some reason "redneck culture and country music" just don't seem to have quite the impact on white people as rap music seems to have on black people (that is if we're going to foolishly assume that music has any fuging thing to do with social inequality beyond its use as social commentary)

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:31 AM

yet for some reason "redneck culture and country music" just don't seem to have quite the impact on white people as rap music seems to have on black people (that is if we're going to foolishly assume that music has any fuging thing to do with social inequality beyond its use as social commentary)


So rural whites no longer make up a huge fraction of poor people in the United States of America?

Are there lots of poor rednecks, or are there not? And if there are (hint: there are), what's their problem? Systemic racism and white privilege from other white people?

Time to decide which flawed premise you're going to build your argument on, sweetheart.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:38 AM

yes half of those living in poverty are white and let's be clear here, the fact that white people outnumber black people by a 5-1 ratio, and every minority group by a 2-1 ratio, is totally irrelevant you guys. also let's just ignore the fact that 10% of white people live in poverty while 27.5% of black people live in poverty. see, if we ignore all relevant statistics when dealing with a MINORITY, white people sure do have it p bad

checkmate libs

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:48 AM

i just checked the billboard charts

top 5 hip hop/r&b songs are performed by rihanna, kanye west, miguel, alicia keys, and kendrick lamar. wow lots of "anti-education" there let me tell you. like the only dude in the top 25 who actively promotes a gang lifestyle is rick ross and every fuging body knows he's full of poo anyway

but yeah alicia keys and rihanna are truly to blame for social inequality :( :( :(


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