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We need DT, a safety, and another playmaker at receiver...and a coach. Don't get rid of Beason tho he's a leader in the locker room and the field and cutting him IDT helps the cap anyways.

I do not think rebuilding is the answer and I think this statement sums it up.

The DT sutuation has cost us at least 2 games

The S situation cost us at least 1

The WR situation is hard to tell, but Smith would be so much better if we had another threat

The Coaching has cost us nearly every game. The only game we were not outcoached?

New Orleans.--the team without one.

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We are not going to get rid of Beason. If Beason was smart, he would plug in some tape of Derrick Brooks, and learn how to be a better outside linebacker than he ever was. Beason knows no one is going to pay him the same amount of money than what Caroina is paying him. If I was the new GM, I wouldn't touch Beason's contract (unless he isn't healthy), and I would let him earn every cent on the field.

Now there will be some cap casualties. (Ron Edwards, DeAngelo Williams, and perhaps Chris Gamble to name a few) Yet perhaps some of those guys will want to do some major restructuring so they can stay here. As for the 3-4 defense, no. To switch to that, you would have to blow up the main part of our defense. We are too deep into the 4-3 look to change now. Greg Hardy at linebacker? Mwha ha ha ha ha ha! Yet seriously, the guy weighs over 300 pounds.

With all that said, I want an offensive minded coach. If Cam is going to succeed, he needs a bright mind leading the way. Someone mentioned it in another thread, and I'm seriously liking David Shaw. Even if we offered him an OC job, that would be just what the doctor ordered for Cam.

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Mike Zimmer isn't a 3-4 guy; I don't like Greg Hardy at OLB. I do believe that Hardy and Johnson can each play 3-4 DE; Johnson has been a decent OLB in spot duty. I like the 3-4 only with Beason here, and that's probably a non-negotiable. Two ends and two ILB gives you room to pursue one solid rush OLB, and drop the better from Davis/Anderson in the other hole (not ideal, but serviceable).

Ideally - here's mine:

GM - Marc Ross, Giants

Head Coach - Chip Kelly

I could go into assistants but won't. Ideally you keep together what you can for the roster, dropping DW and not a lot else if you can help it, mild upgrade at S. Top pick - Star Lotuleilei, grab a corner in the 2nd and draft nothing but DTs and linemen after that, toughen this nonsense up.

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Getting tired of "rebuilding" we were supposed to rebuild in 2004, supposed to rebuild in 2005, supposed to rebuild in 2006..etc..etc...whatever...maybe we will get a SB win before we all die....geeezzz...

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Let's be clear THIS TEAM DOES NOT NEED TO BE REBUILT--

What needs to change is the COACHING, like many Rivera sold me on the things he said when first introduced, "an aggressive, attacking offensive/defensive team"....the excuse last year was personnel and injuries to the defense. While the offense lived up to the hype, the defense did not.

This year the PLAYCALLING REGRESSED, no the players to be clear. Two TE sets were our bread and butter and created match-up issues and didn't tip pass or run. I love Tolbert but he should only be receiving check downs. At 5'9, 240+ I shouldn't see passes up the seam to him.

We're on par with a lot of playoff teams when it comes to quality at the starting positions, every team has a weak area, BUT GOOD COACHING HELPS PREVENT THAT WEAKNESS FROM COSTING THE TEAM GAMES. See a 15-1 Packers secondary/pass rush that regressed from their Superbowl run. or a Patriots team that couldn't stop a nosebleed getting to the Superbowl. Same concept with the Giants, their secondary was decimated, but they used their strengths to their advantage, and relied on coaching to put their players in positions to succeed regardless of their shortcomings.

Cam-Franchise Caliber QB

Williams, Stewart, Tolbert-as good a stable of runners as any team

WR/TE-a true start in Steve Smith, and a TE with the receiving skill set to be as good as any

OL-Above avg (when healthy) with two multi-time probowlers

DL-above avg with what appears to be a great rotation, and young

LB's-IMO as good as any when healthy, name a 4-3 team with the LB talent we have that's better....I'll wait

DB/S-I'd say avg or slightly below

We need a staff that put's our playmakers in positions to be effective, be creative around Cam's skill set, but also make defense prepare vs a pro style so when we mix in the college concepts it catches them more on their heels, vs having them expect. Honestly we looked much better offensively vs Chicago than we did all season.

As far as a GM, better talent evaluation, and less draft day trading, giving up our future picks. I'm not against trading down, but I don't like the insecurity of passing on future talent not knowing where we'll finish until we are a repeat playoff team. Our team IMO really lacks depth, that's what hurts us when guys go down, our 2nd/3rd level talent is full of locals like Armanti, who honestly probably do not even belong on the roster, and I mean no disrespect but that is just the truth. You don't draft a 3rd round receiver with a 3YR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.....

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Why would you cut Beason because he is having trouble this year. I told all of you that he was going to struggle this year and that Achilles injuries are difficult to come back from. Anyone who thought he was going to be great this year just wasn't paying attention. However there is a good chance he can return next year and his leadership alone is worth a roster spot. There are guys I would get rid of but Beason isn't one of them.

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Hardy is all-world on this board. Obviously football minds see him more as interior guy, but on here he can play OLB too. The 3-4 thing is getting worn out, we have a solid front 7 in the making now and people think we should continue to evolve in another direction?

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Beasons injuries are no where near the same as TDs. While the option to restructure isn't a bad idea letting a top tier linebacker go because a couple bad breaks isn't a good idea. Your overwhelming desire to cut good talent because of a bad break is what makes teams turn into a decade long loser like Detroit. You are so convinced that Kuechly should remain at MLB that jettisoning our defensive leader is a good idea. Just for giggles who would you bring in as a Free Agent to replace the BEAST?

Kuechly replaced Beason and our defense has been very good the past few weeks.

Beason is too banged up, not producing to command a 50$ mil contract. Restructure or hit the road...

This team is headed in a new direction...this loyalty program that Hurney ran is over. You produce or you're out. No more guys eating up $ because the GM likes you

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We are not going to get rid of Beason. If Beason was smart, he would plug in some tape of Derrick Brooks, and learn how to be a better outside linebacker than he ever was. Beason knows no one is going to pay him the same amount of money than what Caroina is paying him. If I was the new GM, I wouldn't touch Beason's contract (unless he isn't healthy), and I would let him earn every cent on the field.

Hit on the head here, it would cost us more to cut or trade Beason next year than to keep him. Send Beas this in an email, this is as good as it could get from here on out with Brooks comparison. Our front seven minus a playmaking DT is starting to look pretty damn good right now.

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Beasons injuries are no where near the same as TDs. While the option to restructure isn't a bad idea letting a top tier linebacker go because a couple bad breaks isn't a good idea. Your overwhelming desire to cut good talent because of a bad break is what makes teams turn into a decade long loser like Detroit. You are so convinced that Kuechly should remain at MLB that jettisoning our defensive leader is a good idea. Just for giggles who would you bring in as a Free Agent to replace the BEAST?

Where in my post did I say I wanted to bring in a FA to replace Beason? Keuchly does a number of things as good as Beason and will get better. He has looked more than serviceable at MLB since the BEAST has been regulated to IR again. I guess to you a torn achillies is not a big deal, but hey the glass/half full theory is a great way to live. This year his shoulder was torn up and his knee was out of commission. Thats two seasons gone. Our defense has looked reallly good with Keuchly qaurterbacking it. I thought you read my post, but I could not find my overwhelming desire to jettison the BEAST anywhere. I said he needs to concede some things for the better of the team. I see the Hurney mentality of hanging on to players and coddling veterans was not hated by everyone.

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Defense is starting to turn it around a bit. I would change it just yet. The problems with this team has been more about the offense then the defense.

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Where in my post did I say I wanted to bring in a FA to replace Beason? Keuchly does a number of things as good as Beason and will get better. He has looked more than serviceable at MLB since the BEAST has been regulated to IR again. I guess to you a torn achillies is not a big deal, but hey the glass/half full theory is a great way to live. This year his shoulder was torn up and his knee was out of commission. Thats two seasons gone. Our defense has looked reallly good with Keuchly qaurterbacking it. I thought you read my post, but I could not find my overwhelming desire to jettison the BEAST anywhere. I said he needs to concede some things for the better of the team. I see the Hurney mentality of hanging on to players and coddling veterans was not hated by everyone.

First of all GFY. Because I don't agree with you thoughts doesn't mean I have the Hurney mentality. If you were around long enough you would know I was all for jettisoning the vets back when Hurney did it. You have no clue as to why they shut him down. Maybe it was in the best interest of him and the team to allow him to recover from the hamstring and the shoulder. As your massive intelligence should know a hamstring can linger for a long time. Maybe hurting the shoulder was enough to convince him to shut it down for another season. And while you didn't come out directly and say it.... you implied it " If he will not make those two concessions, then maybe you think about making moves." Stand by your comments you ***** troll don't wishy washy around. NEWBY

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