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#11 Marguide

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:03 PM

While I'll agree there's talent on the roster, it's in a surplus at positions that aren't as important in todays NFL. We have some huge holes on our team. LT, WR2, CB, RG, FS, SS all are significant holes. LT, WR2, CB, and FS are positions that a premium is placed on in todays league. That's a huge problem. But I agree, coaching is horrendous.....


The problem is, it's difficult to even evaluate the talent level on the offense because the coaching is so bad. Not one player on O is performing above and beyond expectations. Not one.

That is coaching.

Get a good staff in here, and we'll have a lot better idea where the deficiencies are.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:09 PM

I don't really think you need a new coaching staff in here to understand why it was a bad idea to invest 89 million dollars in the RB position. That's what I'm talking about when I say we have a surplus at individual positions. Who on this roster is a #2 WR, or for that matter, a #1 when Smitty is gone? Who on this roster is a franchise LT to protect Cam's blindside? A ball hawking FS to patrol center field and make the QB pay for missed throws. A DT to affect the LOS on every down? We don't have any of those....

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

All I know if JR had best make one helluva an impression with his next head coach selection.

It better be a star and it better be someone with credibility.

As a PSL holder, I've had enough, so have many others, and in these economic times coughing up $4200 a year for this well, it is not happening.

When I was at the Cowboys game, my row and the one in front and back of me was missing very long time PSL holders, ones that never missed a game, ones that never sold their tickets...that's gone now.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:25 PM

All I know if JR had best make one helluva an impression with his next head coach selection.

It better be a star and it better be someone with credibility.

As a PSL holder, I've had enough, so have many others, and in these economic times coughing up $4200 a year for this well, it is not happening.

When I was at the Cowboys game, my row and the one in front and back of me was missing very long time PSL holders, ones that never missed a game, ones that never sold their tickets...that's gone now.


So basically you're saying you want Cowher then? Sorry I just don't see a retread as being the right move....

#15 Marguide

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

I don't really think you need a new coaching staff in here to understand why it was a bad idea to invest 89 million dollars in the RB position. That's what I'm talking about when I say we have a surplus at individual positions. Who on this roster is a #2 WR, or for that matter, a #1 when Smitty is gone? Who on this roster is a franchise LT to protect Cam's blindside? A ball hawking FS to patrol center field and make the QB pay for missed throws. A DT to affect the LOS on every down? We don't have any of those....


Regarding the RB's, yeah, that's obviously an area of concern. And I've not been comfortable with our WR corps since the 2011 camp.

My point is, every team has holes. Good coaching goes a long way to minimizing the impact of the deficiencies. No one on O is playing very well. That's not just from a lack of talent.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

Regarding the RB's, yeah, that's obviously an area of concern. And I've not been comfortable with our WR corps since the 2011 camp.

My point is, every team has holes. Good coaching goes a long way to minimizing the impact of the deficiencies. No one on O is playing very well. That's not just from a lack of talent.


I agree every team has some holes, but we have severe holes at numerous positions. Our safeties are without a doubt the worst in the league. Our LT is our highest played player and perhaps the biggest liability on offense outside of Amini, and our WRS can't beat coverage on a pretty regular basis. Those are HUGE problems that no coach is going to change....

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:52 PM

...with the exception of Cam and Kuek we've had mostly the same players thru 2 coaches and multiple coordinators...we still stink....ST's is terrible at best and been so for quite some time. its time to part with high dollar players, gross, gamble and sad to say smitty and Dwill... its time to get rid of players that dont contribute, armanti, pickles, adams, pilares,barnigdge just to name a few..we dont have the luxury of having players who dont contribute....we dont have the talent we think we have and its evident...whether its coaching or players....

#18 Kuech the Sneak

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:02 PM

It's sad to suck as much as we do.....thought we had our franchise QB and a good o-line and both have gotten remarkably worse. This franchise has tons of work ahead of them to get back to being respectable in this league

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:43 PM

So basically you're saying you want Cowher then? Sorry I just don't see a retread as being the right move....


I am saying I want a winner.

I don't care who it is.

If it is interpreted as Cowher, so be it.

One thing I know for sure, this team would not look the piece of hammered crap it has looked like the last 4 years.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:58 PM

I am very disappointed. The D is playing well. This team makes too many mistakes. I attribuitute that to coaching. O-line is serious problem. #61 is in over his head. The new GM has his hands full.


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