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#16 BIGH2001

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:55 AM

He's just butthurt that you didn't start a topic slobbering over Cam.


They are playing like a top 10 defense currently.

Considering how long they have been on the field this year, one could argue they are the reason the Panthers have been in any games at all. Hell, the offense and special teams allowed nearly as many points as they did yesterday.

Why do you have it in for the defense? Aren't you happy they look like a legit NFL unit, unlike the offense?



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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:00 AM

Our defense is really good, you can credit them with winning us 1 game in 2 years.

If we're playing like a top 10 defense, what was Denver's D playing like yesterday?

You guys lowered their expectations last year because they sucked so bad and want to act like they're playing great even though they dont beat nobody. Top 10 defenses win games even when their QB is off. Top 10 defenses dont give games away on final drives to mediocre QBs. This is the defense that struggled stopping Curtis Painter last year, and made Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre this year.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

Our defense is really good, you can credit them with winning us 1 game in 2 years.

If we're playing like a top 10 defense, what was Denver's D playing like yesterday?

You guys lowered their expectations last year because they sucked so bad and want to act like they're playing great even though they dont beat nobody. Top 10 defenses win games even when their QB is off. Top 10 defenses dont give games away on final drives to mediocre QBs. This is the defense that struggled stopping Curtis Painter last year, and made Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre this year.


Big difference, we held an on fire offense to 13 pts until garbage time.

Held an out of sync train wreck to 7 until garbage time. An offense that has consistantly been held to under 14 pts this year.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:05 AM

Our defense is really good, you can credit them with winning us 1 game in 2 years.

If we're playing like a top 10 defense, what was Denver's D playing like yesterday?

You guys lowered their expectations last year because they sucked so bad and want to act like they're playing great even though they dont beat nobody. Top 10 defenses win games even when their QB is off. Top 10 defenses dont give games away on final drives to mediocre QBs. This is the defense that struggled stopping Curtis Painter last year, and made Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre this year.


Are you arguing the stats that prove they are a top 10 defense are wrong?

How many turnovers did they force yesterday? How many extra opportunities did the offense have? Did they capitalize?

Top 10 defenses can make up for a mediocre offense and win games.

Top 10 defenses do not win games when an offense is completely impotent.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:06 AM

Im not sure the the resurgence of the Defense is in part of McDermott or of Kueckly. Even though we did have 1 sack and 3 overall forced fumbles, It feels like we could have done more to Manning. I didnt see us once bring the blitz on manning it seemed like.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:06 AM

Our defense is irrelevant Zod. As soon as Newton throws a pick, they've shown they dont have what it takes to win. This is one man show til I see us win games without our QB playing perfect. I dont think I will see anything raving about our D today except on this board. We made our bed, we have to sleep in it.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:10 AM

Our defense is irrelevant Zod. As soon as Newton throws a pick, they've shown they dont have what it takes to win. This is one man show til I see us win games without our QB playing perfect. I dont think I will see anything raving about our D today except on this board. We made our bed, we have to sleep in it.


KT, if you don't think that the D played infinitely better than the O yesterday, I am afraid we don't have much to discuss.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:11 AM

Our defense is irrelevant Zod. As soon as Newton throws a pick, they've shown they dont have what it takes to win. This is one man show til I see us win games without our QB playing perfect. I dont think I will see anything raving about our D today except on this board. We made our bed, we have to sleep in it.


and which man is that? Keuchly?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:13 AM

They didnt play well enough to win or get to Manning, so again, irrelevant. What they do doesnt matter. If our QB turns the ball over once, its proven, their efforts just arent good enough. 1 win in 2 years is a prime example of "lowering your standards". Next we'll be bragging our kids brought home C's instead of F's so they deserve praise.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:13 AM

His last two picks went back the other way for 6. Can't believe the defense didnt put a stop to that.

Our defense is irrelevant Zod. As soon as Newton throws a pick, they've shown they dont have what it takes to win. This is one man show til I see us win games without our QB playing perfect. I dont think I will see anything raving about our D today except on this board. We made our bed, we have to sleep in it.



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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:15 AM

They didnt play well enough to win or get to Manning, so again, irrelevant.



So you feel the defense needs to keep Peyton Manning to ZERO points to be considered worthy of praise?

Afterall, thats what they would have had to do in order to even tie the Broncos yesterday thanks to Cam's horrific pick 6 and the punt return.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:16 AM

So you feel the defense needs to keep Peyton Manning to ZERO points to be considered worthy of praise?

Afterall, thats what they would have had to do in order to even tie the Broncos yesterday thanks to Cam's horrific pick 6 and the punt return.


I feel in 2 years, having 1 win under their belt is not great or even good. A top 10 D that nobody fears. So we're on par with the Bears? Texans? Giants?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

I feel in 2 years, having 1 win under their belt is not great or even good. A top 10 D that nobody fears. So we're on par with the Bears? Texans? Giants?



We are playing like a top 10 defense. The numbers don't lie.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:20 AM

Dosent matter, the new HC will hand pick his own staff and if JR is willing to fire him I highly doubt he will ask the new regime to retain him as part of the staff.

I personally wouldnt mind WHOEVER is calling the D stayed on, problem is, we dont know if its RR of McDerp.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:21 AM

They didnt play well enough to win or get to Manning, so again, irrelevant. What they do doesnt matter. If our QB turns the ball over once, its proven, their efforts just arent good enough. 1 win in 2 years is a prime example of "lowering your standards". Next we'll be bragging our kids brought home C's instead of F's so they deserve praise.


D had played well enough to win for the last 5 weeks. They are playing like a top 10 D.....which means they need an O to score about 20 pts and they will put them in position for that, even an average offense.


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