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#11 Zod

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:48 AM

How many games has our defense won for us? Who are the stars on this D?

Improvement from last year isnt saying much. We went from being doormats to solid occassionaly now we're the 85 bears?



They are playing like a top 10 defense currently.

Considering how long they have been on the field this year, one could argue they are the reason the Panthers have been in any games at all. Hell, the offense and special teams allowed nearly as many points as they did yesterday.

Why do you have it in for the defense? Aren't you happy they look like a legit NFL unit, unlike the offense?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:51 AM

Imposible to answer as we do not know how much of the improvment is RR.

Based only on how the defense is playing I say he is a keeper.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:51 AM

Well we would need to hire an offensive HC for McD to have a shot....and D would probably need to play even better to finish this year.

I wouldn't be against it if the D continues trending this direction

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:52 AM

i have a bad feeling that the new HC will replace him

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:55 AM

Our defense is really good right now, still does not mean it cannot be just as good or even better under a different regime.

Plus is McDermott really running the defense? Rivera was hired because of his incredibly good defenses in Chicago and San Diego, so if I were to pick which of the two were running the defense I would lean more towards Rivera than Mcdermott. Remember he was run out of Philly for blitzing too much(ala his mentor) and no being able to field a good defense despite the talent they had.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:55 AM

He's just butthurt that you didn't start a topic slobbering over Cam.


They are playing like a top 10 defense currently.

Considering how long they have been on the field this year, one could argue they are the reason the Panthers have been in any games at all. Hell, the offense and special teams allowed nearly as many points as they did yesterday.

Why do you have it in for the defense? Aren't you happy they look like a legit NFL unit, unlike the offense?



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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:00 AM

Our defense is really good, you can credit them with winning us 1 game in 2 years.

If we're playing like a top 10 defense, what was Denver's D playing like yesterday?

You guys lowered their expectations last year because they sucked so bad and want to act like they're playing great even though they dont beat nobody. Top 10 defenses win games even when their QB is off. Top 10 defenses dont give games away on final drives to mediocre QBs. This is the defense that struggled stopping Curtis Painter last year, and made Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre this year.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

Our defense is really good, you can credit them with winning us 1 game in 2 years.

If we're playing like a top 10 defense, what was Denver's D playing like yesterday?

You guys lowered their expectations last year because they sucked so bad and want to act like they're playing great even though they dont beat nobody. Top 10 defenses win games even when their QB is off. Top 10 defenses dont give games away on final drives to mediocre QBs. This is the defense that struggled stopping Curtis Painter last year, and made Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre this year.


Big difference, we held an on fire offense to 13 pts until garbage time.

Held an out of sync train wreck to 7 until garbage time. An offense that has consistantly been held to under 14 pts this year.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:05 AM

Our defense is really good, you can credit them with winning us 1 game in 2 years.

If we're playing like a top 10 defense, what was Denver's D playing like yesterday?

You guys lowered their expectations last year because they sucked so bad and want to act like they're playing great even though they dont beat nobody. Top 10 defenses win games even when their QB is off. Top 10 defenses dont give games away on final drives to mediocre QBs. This is the defense that struggled stopping Curtis Painter last year, and made Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre this year.


Are you arguing the stats that prove they are a top 10 defense are wrong?

How many turnovers did they force yesterday? How many extra opportunities did the offense have? Did they capitalize?

Top 10 defenses can make up for a mediocre offense and win games.

Top 10 defenses do not win games when an offense is completely impotent.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:06 AM

Im not sure the the resurgence of the Defense is in part of McDermott or of Kueckly. Even though we did have 1 sack and 3 overall forced fumbles, It feels like we could have done more to Manning. I didnt see us once bring the blitz on manning it seemed like.


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