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Bob Costas' Soap Box

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Actually you could not be more incorrect.

Our per capita non gun related violent crimes are on par with other civilized countries. When we add in gun violence our violent crime rate skyrockets.

Like I said, problem isn't as simple as going down to that number by outlawing guns. Which other civilized countries are we talking about here? Switzerland? Have you seen their firearms politics?

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The issue here isn't really about guns and banning them ... it's about Costas taking this "opportunity" to spout his political views. Actually, to allow him to read someone else's political views and agree with them. It was an inappropriate time and place.

If he wanted to give some sort of opinion about any of it, he could have talked about domestic violence in general. The gun issue? Nope. Not appropriate.

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I thought we were talking about banning handguns?

Tanks and uranium....what?

Others were talking about banning handguns. You brought up the idea that all guns should be legal- the Scalia opinion if you will

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i'm pretty ambivalent on the gun control issue as i see significant pros and cons to either one, but if we're going to analyze the constitutional aspect of it it's important to note that the second amendment was written in a historical context where a firearm was a muzzle-loading musket or flintlock pistol, taking at least thirty seconds between shots to reload (and that's if you're a trained expert.) There's not a technological equivalency between that and a semiautomatic handgun or rifle, and that's something important to keep in mind.

Very well put. I'm all for someone owning a pistol to protect their home, but when someone goes Smitty it's too easy for very bad things to happen. Imagine how many people would be dead if we could just clench our fist and they fall down dead. Guns eliminate the cooling off period. People would still be murdered without them, but to think that guns don't affect the murder rate is wrong.

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Bullshit it WAS the appropriate time and place. I'm sick of this - after every crazy gun related incident, people whine that it's not the time - of course to you it's not the time because your arguments lose steam when confronted with the reality of the situation. All Costas said was that we should talk about it - that's why the OP had to inject his own beliefs instead of simply posting what Costas said:

"Well, you knew it was coming. In the aftermath of the nearly unfathomable events in Kansas City, that most mindless of sports clichés was heard yet again: Something like this really puts it all in perspective. Well, if so, that sort of perspective has a very short shelf-life since we will inevitably hear about the perspective we have supposedly again regained the next time ugly reality intrudes upon our games. Please, those who need tragedies to continually recalibrate their sense of proportion about sports would seem to have little hope of ever truly achieving perspective. You want some actual perspective on this? Well, a bit of it comes from the Kansas City-based writer Jason Whitlock with whom I do not always agree, but who today said it so well that we may as well just quote or paraphrase from the end of his article.

"Our current gun culture,"Whitlock wrote, "ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and that more convenience-store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead."

"Handguns do not enhance our safety. They exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. In the coming days, Jovan Belcher’s actions, and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. Who knows?"

"But here," wrote Jason Whitlock," is what I believe. If Jovan Belcher didn’t possess a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today."

There is NOTHING in there that does not jibe with the consensus here - that having a gun makes this kind of thing easier, etc.

If Javon had a fuging baseball bat and not a gun, I doubt he could have bashed his own head in to death.

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