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#61 Lumps

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:57 PM

Being prepared for anything is always good.

Make sure you have protection from other humans though. If anything is going to go down they will become your worst enemy.

#62 Bronn

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:59 PM

I'm working from half remembered info I picked up right after the Japanese tsunami so I admit I could be wrong here...

Our reactors are built so that the un-powered state is that the fuel rods are fully retracted into their coolant and their absorption packages. In the case of total power failure they return to their safest and most stable condition expressly to prevent incidents like Fukashima. Its my understanding that barring physical damage to the control mechanisms or deliberate sabotage the reactors here are much more disaster resistant..


but wouldn't you need some sort of water exchanger to keep them cooling? hard to do without power...

I don't know... just genuinely curious...

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:06 PM

but wouldn't you need some sort of water exchanger to keep them cooling? hard to do without power...

I don't know... just genuinely curious...


I would assume, and I don't know either, that the on-site diesel generators provide power for long enough to keep the water circulating to exchange heat while the system cools down after an automatic shutdown. Once the control rods are in place, the heat just needs to dissipate and then it wouldn't matter if the water circulated anymore, right?

Maybe that's why they online require one weeks worth of diesel on site... once the automatic shutdown takes place and it cools, you wouldn't need power. Total speculation on my part however.

#64 Bronn

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:10 PM

So now I know where to get a surplus of diesel fuel if the SHTF, but do I risk the radiation?

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

Yeah guys a massive tsunami is going to turn everyone into the walking dead on dec. 21 this year.

The illuminati tried but failed with y2k

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:13 PM

The fuel rods are housed in a container that's made of material that absorbs the radioactivity and nullifies its heating effect. Its only when they are extracted out of that housing do they heat the water to the point of making steam to drive a turbine. When they are retracted they are not inert but they don't react with one another to generate heat either. They are effectively insulated and since the system is a closed loop the fluid they are immersed in cant ever be lost so they would remain enclosed in their insulators and submerged.

A generator or other power source would be needed to restart the facility.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:15 PM

stfu Nostradamus MrTD...

You know as much about the next 15 minutes of your life as you do about what I ate for breakfast this morning...

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:16 PM

Like biscuit guessed and I explained. GE counts.


Ahh, somehow I missed that.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

If no one maintains nuclear facities an they go boom within 3 weeks... and all food and water becomes radioactive... what u gonna do then? Enjoy thyroid cancer?


you watch too many movies....there's more human interaction required to leave them running than you need to shut it down

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

Ahh, somehow I missed that.

The marker on San Jose is another GE site.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

I grew up on the farm when I was a kid. We lived of land... honey bee's are a must but u gotta know how to take care of em or they wont make it past winter.


good luck keeping honey bees alive without modern chemicals - all the diseases and parasites these days that honey bees get make it very unlikely.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:23 PM

I agree.

I have a buddy that wanted a Home Defense gun.

I told him to get a Mossberg500 or a Remy 870.

He bought a 900$ AR-15....
Then he bought a SAIGA
Now he wants another AR-15.

I told him the other day I prayed he never gets robbed because he will murder his entire family shooting through his drywall walls trying to hit the robber.

I'm keeping it simple, 9mm handgun, .22 rifle, 12G shotty.


Most 9mm and 12 Gauge rounds will penetrate multiple layers of drywall, bird shot being the exception. A 223 or 5.56 round is a higher velocity round, some test show that the 5.56/223 will begin fragmenting before a 9mm round when fired through drywall.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

I have a Nook.



You bought a Betamax back in the day, too I bet.

Kindle app is free on most smartphones/tablets.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

For anyone questioning these replies, I used to work in the nuke biz.


It is the GE site. It shows on the map because fuel rods are manufactured there. Also, service tools that come back from service jobs are worked on there, and they are HOT. They have to be worked on in special areas while wearing PPE.



Pretty sure the markers are for sites and not units.



Correct. NRC won't let anything happen to us.


For your information the reactors at Fukushima were GE boiling water reactors of the exact same design and generation as the 2 located in Southport - not a damn bit of difference - they even store the spent fuel rods in pools of water that must constantly be cooled with pumped water just like the ones in Fukushima. There are others located throughout the US as well - if my memory is correct there are about a dozen others currently operating in this country.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:36 PM

For your information the reactors at Fukushima were GE boiling water reactors of the exact same design and generation as the 2 located in Southport - not a damn bit of difference - they even store the spent fuel rods in pools of water that must constantly be cooled with pumped water just like the ones in Fukushima. There are others located throughout the US as well - if my memory is correct there are about a dozen others currently operating in this country.



You are correct that Fukushima has GE BWR designs. They aren't exactly like Southport though. The NRC governs Southport, and as a GE contractor for 7+ years I saw that place shut down for 2 months at a time to repair flaws that made the site unfit for operation in the eyes of the NRC. That is one governing agency that does not fug around.

Fukushima was obviously governed by Japan's commission, and mainly due to that the peripheral systems were a great deal different than what they would be in the US.


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