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Newton's Sophomore Slump - another look

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1355244374' post='2042014']


it is relevant to the point our QB produces more yards, more TDs, and less turnovers than the majority of teams in the NFL have gotten from the QB position
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The point being discussed is wether newton is currently a overall accurate Qb. Yards, Td's etc not does help in that specific discussion wether you believe he is or not. So I don't see how it's relevant.

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The point being discussed is wether newton is currently a overall accurate Qb. Yards, Td's etc not does help in that specific discussion wether you believe he is or not. So I don't see how it's relevant.
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And my point was....the info I supplied shows how focusing on his accuracy isn't as big of an issue as it may seem on face value.

Something to work in yes as he could be more accurate.....but if he was more accurate his production would be off the charts ( elite in your prime type stuff ).....and that isn't realistic for him right now

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I have no idea what the numbers are but there have been some drops that would really pad Cam's numbers. Murphy had some big downfield drops early in the season and Lafell had the most egregious one against Kansas City. Those weren't accuracy problems. Maybe other QBs had just as many drops, It would be difficult to compare without watching all the tape. We all know Cam has a little Randy Johnson in him with the wild pitch but the pundits are so quick to dismiss his 700 yards on the ground. That is a legit contribution to the offense. Also we don't really have a true home run threat at wide out. Steve is great for us but he doesn't break tackles the way he used to. Lafell gets caught and Cam never seems to be on the same page with Murphy. The one true bomb pass I remember this year was to Armanti (lol) who got caught.

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[quote name='Lilsmitty09' timestamp='1355107673' post='2039409']
Makes you wonder what they'll say for rg3 soph slump...

Sure they'll find an excuse for everything
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It's a little funny right now because if you look at the stats for RG3 vs. Cam it's:

2906 yards, 18TDs, 4INTs, 748 rushing yards, 6TDs - RGIII

3220 yard, 16TDs, 10INTs, 640 rushing yards, 7TDs - Cam

The other aspect of this is that in Cam's 29 games since he has been here he hasn't been injured because he's big and he doesn't take hits. RGIII has been injured what...twice since he started in Washington? He's not durable enough to play the way he wants.

In the end Cam will be the better QB especially when the right coach gets in here.

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And my point was....the info I supplied shows how focusing on his accuracy isn't as big of an issue as it may seem on face value.

Something to work in yes as he could be more accurate.....but if he was more accurate his production would be off the charts ( elite in your prime type stuff ).....and that isn't realistic for him right now
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A point I never disagreed with. Saying he's in inaccurate doesn't mean he doesnt do alot to make up a lot for it. Or that its a dire issue. But that doesn't mean it isn't ( though one Im sure he'll remedy )a issue.

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Most of the Redskins passing success comes from teams thinking they are gonna run with RG3, when that hasnt worked and teams know they have to pass he has been ineffective. I dont think i have seen him convert a 3rd and long through the air hardly any this year.

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[quote name='KendrickPanther' timestamp='1355246753' post='2042073']
I have no idea what the numbers are but there have been some drops that would really pad Cam's numbers. Murphy had some big downfield drops early in the season and Lafell had the most egregious one against Kansas City. Those weren't accuracy problems. Maybe other QBs had just as many drops, It would be difficult to compare without watching all the tape. We all know Cam has a little Randy Johnson in him with the wild pitch but the pundits are so quick to dismiss his 700 yards on the ground. That is a legit contribution to the offense. Also we don't really have a true home run threat at wide out. Steve is great for us but he doesn't break tackles the way he used to. Lafell gets caught and Cam never seems to be on the same page with Murphy. The one true bomb pass I remember this year was to Armanti (lol) who got caught.
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yes, it is comical how the fact he leads us in rushing each week is dismissed.

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Cam is not having a slump, we just aren't winning so the media likes to use the abused term. I would argue Cam is continuing a 4th qtr issue along with 90% of the team.

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Cam is not having a slump, we just aren't winning so the media likes to use the abused term. I would argue Cam is continuing a 4th qtr issue along with 90% of the team.
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Biggest 4th q issue is in the 4th q....Ron has been so safe and scared he makes John Fox look like a wild maniac.

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1355250800' post='2042189']
Biggest 4th q issue is in the 4th q....Ron has been so safe and scared he makes John Fox look like a wild maniac.
[/quote] I agree. If we had played all season the way we did against the Falcons we would at least be .500. How many games did we play prevent offense with a 1 point lead and 10 minutes left in the game? Against Atlanta we stuck to our offense and it worked.

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