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Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:18 PM

Luck needs to cut down on his turnovers, and his completion % is horrible. He isn't "great" at the moment. Had a mediocre/average season. He's gonna be a good one, though. Just gotta get them turnovers down. I don't know about his accuracy, though. You can't teach that. Either you've got it or you don't. He doesn't have it.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:21 PM

Luck needs to cut down on his turnovers, and his completion % is horrible. He isn't "great" at the moment. Had a mediocre/average season. He's gonna be a good one, though. Just gotta get them turnovers down. I don't know about his accuracy, though. You can't teach that. Either you've got it or you don't. He doesn't have it.



accuracy can be coached to some degree at least. we've seen cam's accuracy improve significantly when our coaches were invested in working on his footwork.

luck's raw numbers look better because his attempts are sky-high. drop him down to 275-325 pass attempts and he's pretty damn pedestrian.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:41 PM

It's a good story, but Luck is taking some of the spotlight off some of the more deserving guys.

I want to see the Colts win a game and the Falcons go one and done.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:49 PM

It's a good story, but Luck is taking some of the spotlight off some of the more deserving guys.

I want to see the Colts win a game and the Falcons go one and done.


Part two of that wish is more likely to happen than part one.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:49 PM

Russel Wilson or RG3 deserve rookie of the year. They have truly had outstanding seasons.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:54 PM

Russel Wilson or RG3 deserve rookie of the year. They have truly had outstanding seasons.


You could make an argument, for certain.

With that said, given the emotion surrounding the Colts season and the hype surrounding Andrew Luck, don't be surprised if he wins it.

Honestly, I could live with any of those three getting the nod.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:01 PM

To say the 2012 Colts overachieved is an understatement. They are built like the 2010 KC Chiefs or the '08 Miami Dolphins so I expect a big decline in 2013.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:11 PM

Part two of that wish is more likely to happen than part one.


I think it's the other way around. Baltimore is so sketch these days, it wouldn't surprise me to see Indy go in there and win.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:12 PM

To say the 2012 Colts overachieved is an understatement. They are built like the 2010 KC Chiefs or the '08 Miami Dolphins so I expect a big decline in 2013.


Be kind of a downer if the Colts tanked after Pagano came back full time.

However, knowing the way the world works, that's probably what'll happen.


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

Part two of that wish is more likely to happen than part one.


That would be just fine with me.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:20 PM

Be kind of a downer if the Colts tanked after Pagano came back full time.

However, knowing the way the world works, that's probably what'll happen.


Well, it's going to be very emtional and which way they channel that will determine how it works out in the end.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:22 PM

You could make an argument, for certain.

With that said, given the emotion surrounding the Colts season and the hype surrounding Andrew Luck, don't be surprised if he wins it.

Honestly, I could live with any of those three getting the nod.



If I had to list my OROY's it would be

1. Wilson
2. Griffin
3. Doug Martin
4. Andrew Luck

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:26 PM

Realistically, Martin has no shot (deserving or not).

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:28 PM

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 05:35 PM

Luck vs Cam is the new Peyton vs Brady. We should appreciate this, not tear them down.


Are you new here? Luck could've thrown for 6000 yds and they could've played the Packers every game, and RGIII could have played blind with a broken femur while the Skins played the Pats every game and this retarded board will still belittle anything not slurping the sack that is Cam and the fact we could easily have won 11 games this year.

Worst homers in the NFL, folks. Right here.


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