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#85 carpanfan96

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:27 AM

really? I was pretty sure that the amount from the option bonus is determined by the language of the buy back clause in the contract if the team doesn't exercise the option bonus.

This is really, really old.... but


NFL contracts are generally not guaranteed, unlike those in baseball, basketball and hockey. Technically, option bonuses aren't guaranteed, either.

Before 2001, such deals were rare. But clubs have warmed to the structure because it allows them to close deals with key players and lessen the first-year hit under the NFL's $71.1 million salary cap. "I think they've institutionalized it," says Duberstein, referring to agents and clubs.




Ravens vice president Ozzie Newsome says, "When we did the deal, we were looking for a long-term relationship."

Grbac has retired. Still, since Grbac's deal, agents have pressed to include more protection for players with option bonuses who could be vulnerable if injured or if their performance falls. Buyback clauses, incentives and other guarantees are all part of the mix.

Consider Jets running back Curtis Martin's new eight-year, $46 million contract. If the Jets don't pick up a $10 million option, he's still guaranteed $8.4 million.

"The way most of these deals are structured, it's not to the team's advantage not to exercise the option," says agent Roosevelt Barnes, whose clients include Ravens linebackers Lewis and Peter Boulware. "If players are cut, they can ite off the free-agent apple again."




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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:29 AM

yes really

this would all be much easier if the panthers would just disclose the full contract details to me, sorry guys


speaking to stwearts contract as im pretty much having to piece together numerous reports. honestly while the total $ amount is a bit less than DWills the structure is even worse when looked at from the panthers POV it's even worse. fug man really guys fug how i dont even... how.... its just... who thought this poo up... really ... fug man.,.................

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:36 AM

yes really

this would all be much easier if the panthers would just disclose the full contract details to me, sorry guys


speaking to stwearts contract as im pretty much having to piece together numerous reports. honestly while the total $ amount is a bit less than DWills the structure is even worse when looked at from the panthers POV it's even worse. fug man really guys fug how i dont even... how.... its just... who thought this poo up... really ... fug man.,.................



I know his signing bonus is really 25.5 million and part of it's due in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. With 2.5 million due in 2015 that's injury guaranteed up to after the superbowl then it becomes fully guaranteed.



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Also on another note, how a team would even think about giving a RB that has injury questions one of the richest RB contracts in the NFL based on guaranteed money is beyond me.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:37 AM

sorry i might break down stewarts deal in the future but the full details havent been disclosed to date and its not exactly relevant to this upcoming offseason as his deal will still be inexpensive until 2014 so the new GM wont have to make a decision until then. this is a whole new discussion anyway and really doesn't have anything to do with the matter at hand. Dwills cap hit and value will/should be determined completely independently of this.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:38 AM

I know his signing bonus is really 25.5 million and part of it's due in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. With 2.5 million due in 2015 that's injury guaranteed up to after the superbowl then it becomes fully guaranteed.


everything you just posted is incorrect

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:41 AM

everything you just posted is incorrect






http://www.nfl.com/n...nsion-breakdown


The Guarantee

Stewart's deal includes $23 million in stated guarantees, but that number is actually a bit higher since it does not include his $811,250 base salary from 2012. Also, if you include the $1.75 million non-guaranteed portion of his $4.25 million base salary in 2015, the figure rises to around $25.5 million, which would narrowly edge out the $25 million that was essentially guaranteed in Williams' contract. (By the way, $2.5 million of Stewart's 2015 base salary is guaranteed for injury right now, but will become fully guaranteed three days after Super Bowl XLVII).

At $23 million, Stewart's guarantee ranks third behind Adrian Peterson ($36 million) and Chris Johnson ($30 million). 63 percent of the "new money" in Stewart's contract is guaranteed, which barely edges Rice (62.9 percent) for the highest guarantee percentage among these nine running back deals.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:44 AM

you don't have to link that to me I've already read it

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:51 AM

You guys are nerdy as fug crunching numbers and talking about contract language..do my math homework

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:53 AM

Hurney wanted to keep Stew on the cheap for a couple of years and I guess he accomplished that. But that contract is a disaster.

I know most of us were happy when Stew re-signed, but that contract is going to hurt in a couple of years.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:01 AM

You guys are nerdy as fug crunching numbers and talking about contract language..do my math homework


according to the twitter you link as yours...

@iAWESOME23 "#AtlantaFalcons"

@iAWEOSME23 "My Falcons won 34-0. Record 12-2! #leggo"




HEY, how bout you get the fucckk outta my thread,

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:53 AM

Holy poo he is an annoying tweeter.

would not follow.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:05 AM

according to the twitter you link as yours...

@iAWESOME23 "#AtlantaFalcons"

@iAWEOSME23 "My Falcons won 34-0. Record 12-2! #leggo"




HEY, how bout you get the fucckk outta my thread,


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