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#11 Mr. Scot

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

Take lines like this, for example...

The Panthers ran the table outside of a loss to an emotionally inspired Kansas City Chiefs team, beating a pair of NFC South foes along the way to finish second in the division.


The way that's written, it minimizes the loss to the Chiefs.

Follow that with this...

The four-game winning streak to cap the season started with a victory over an Atlanta Falcons team that had lost just one game. It ended Sunday with a road victory over a New Orleans Saints squad that had won seven of its last 11 games/


...highlighting the good teams that they beat.

I put that under the "things that make you go 'hmmmm'" category.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:33 PM

panthers.com is a fluff piece factory

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:33 PM

I still love how people hold the coaches more responsible than the players. If you don't coach or have never coached, don't feed more your crap.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:34 PM

panthers.com is a fluff piece factory


Why would you 'fluff' a coach you're planning to fire?

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

Someone has been spoiled by John Fox. This wasn't going to fixed in two years, only an idiot would think so. With all the injuries the Panthers have suffered this year, it's a wonder that they even won 7 games.

Also last year the Panthers weren't even in a lot of games, this year at least the Panthers were in all but two of their games. They finally learned how to win those close games at the end of the season.

What games were they not in last year? Tennessee and New Orleans. That's it. You know for a fact they underachieved this year. they should have won 3-4 more games, and Rivera is a large reason they did not.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:36 PM

Someone has been spoiled by John Fox. This wasn't going to fixed in two years, only an idiot would think so. With all the injuries the Panthers have suffered this year, it's a wonder that they even won 7 games.

Also last year the Panthers weren't even in a lot of games, this year at least the Panthers were in all but two of their games. They finally learned how to win those close games at the end of the season.


Better answer is Hurney poorly constructed this team to sustain injuries (and in general).

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:36 PM

I still love how people hold the coaches more responsible than the players. If you don't coach or have never coached, don't feed more your crap.


That reminds me...

Giants DC Perry Fewell blames his players

Not a good idea.

For whatever else you think of him, Rivera is by all accounts a guy who accepts blame and deflects credit.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

If they are going to leave it up to the GM, then they better sign them quickly. Otherwise the top coaching candidates will be gone.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

What games were they not in last year? Tennessee and New Orleans. That's it. You know for a fact they underachieved this year. they should have won 3-4 more games, and Rivera is a large reason they did not.


Rivera isn't the reason at all. You can point to plays this year that could have changed the outcome of the game. When you can point out specific plays, you know that it's execution not the coaching staff. I don't understand how people can blatantly ignore that fact.

It would be one thing if you could point out a whole game (excluding the Giants and Broncos game) where the Panthers played piss poor. The difference now is that the team is making plays down the stretch (ex: AE's punt return today).

On top of that, there were games last year that were close but they came down to plays, this year it came down to "play". If you make one more play than the opposing team, you win.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

When you have people like Gross and Olsen saying what they said on the record... I honestly don't see how you fire the guy whatsoever!

I think he deserves another shot... I think this team is growing and trending in the right direction. A play here or there... A call here or there, and we're in the playoffs.

I was kind of indifferent but was leaning towards wanting him to stay, but after today, and reading that article... I definitely want him to stay... We can win a Super Bowl with Rivera... I hate him sometimes, and I ALWAYS hate him on the sidelines, but the players are all in. And being that they are despite this seasons problems, shows me that he must be doing something right!

As a fan, I can't go against the players' wishes... Rivera better stay... And what IF* we owe all of this to Hurney??? What if JR wanted Hurney to give Ribera the axe... But didn't, because Hurney also knew that the players were buying into what he's been selling... The results n the field just weren't showing up. This could very well be the case... And we may owe Hurney more than we could have ever imagined come next January!


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