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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:54 AM

I pray that our next owner is someone not from NC. The whole "it must be a local" philosophy is a big reason Charlotte sports sucks. We keep giving our trust to local big wigs who care more about making money off their people than giving them a winner. Keeping it in the family has only led to losing.


And people from out of state won't want to take money from the locals, because why?

What line of logic are you following here exactly?

I'm not against someone from out of state owning the team, I'm just curious as to why you said what you said here.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:58 AM

First of all, this article is bullshit to sell this to us better. "no no we have to pay this so after richardson sells the team the new owner won't want to move them to LA." If that were so important to him he could cut a check. Don't buy this for a second.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:04 AM

And people from out of state won't want to take money from the locals, because why?

What line of logic are you following here exactly?

I'm not against someone from out of state owning the team, I'm just curious as to why you said what you said here.


An in state owner will always get the "bishop" treatment. People are so happy "one of us" is the boss, they excuse and look past bullshit and make these dudes infalliable. An in state guy is more apt to get away with selling losing. An owner thats an outsider will not be given the blind trust dudes like Shinn and Richardson got not because of their business acumen, but from simply being natives of the Carolinas. People are automatically gonna be more watchful over a businessman thats not from this region. The "put the local Boss Hog in charge" theory hasnt produced long term success in nearly 20 years and led to another franchise moving away alltogether.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:07 AM

Richardson won't be selling the team, the most he could do is sell his 48% share. Even then it is unclear if he owns all the 48% himself or whether it is shared by other family members. In any event it is not as easy to move teams as people think and the other owners would have to agree to it. I can see where you might want to do it if we were Jacksonville and losing money but not when you are one of the most financially successful of the franchises in a small market.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:08 AM

Any other Carolina big wigs you think would step up to the plate at that point?



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:12 AM

Yeah if we ever moved you should just go ahead and kill me

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

An in state owner will always get the "bishop" treatment. People are so happy "one of us" is the boss, they excuse and look past bullshit and make these dudes infalliable. An in state guy is more apt to get away with selling losing. An owner thats an outsider will not be given the blind trust dudes like Shinn and Richardson got not because of their business acumen, but from simply being natives of the Carolinas. People are automatically gonna be more watchful over a businessman thats not from this region. The "put the local Boss Hog in charge" theory hasnt produced long term success in nearly 20 years and led to another franchise moving away alltogether.


That is ridiculous logic. You really believe that most PSL fans are fine with losing because Richardson is from Spartanburg?? I wouldn't care if he were from the moon or downtown Charlotte. I want to win games and championships and don't care where the owner is from. I can confidently say that most other PSL fans would totally agree with me. The fact that most people are grateful that Richardson brought us the franchise is not at all granting permission to lose all the time. The fact that the stands have been pretty empty at times this year certainly tells me that fans aren't fine with the losing lately. The knock on absentee owners is more about not being involved in managing the team on a day to day basis rather than where they are living or are from.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

That is ridiculous logic. You really believe that most PSL fans are fine with losing because Richardson is from Spartanburg??


He's actually from Fayetteville. But went to college in Spartanburg, and yes, he's been given a pass for so long because of his roots. Had he been someone from outside of this region, he would've been questioned a lot sooner and more than likely sold the team by now.

I wouldn't care if he were from the moon or downtown Charlotte. I want to win games and championships and don't care where the owner is from. I can confidently say that most other PSL fans would totally agree with me. The fact that most people are grateful that Richardson brought us the franchise is not at all granting permission to lose all the time. The fact that the stands have been pretty empty at times this year certainly tells me that fans aren't fine with the losing lately. The knock on absentee owners is more about not being involved in managing the team on a day to day basis rather than where they are living or are from.


I'll believe what you said when we actually have someone not from NC running the joint. Until then, its lip service. People defend mediocrity and losing because the CEO is a native. People give him blind trust and hope because he's someone they relate to or they cant fathom him ripping them off. Put someone they know nothing about or heard of at CEO of the Panthers and the perception and trust changes. If it werent a big deal, people wouldnt worry about succession plans and who's taking over. But they do, very much so.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:27 AM

The Levines, Belks, Sabates, etc. could get a group together to buy out JRR's share (I think I read somewhere some if not all of those are already minority shareholders anyway). I imagine this just ending up being a minority takeover with a disappointing lack of drama and threats the media would love to see and the sun comes out the next day like it always does.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:31 AM

He's actually from Fayetteville. But went to college in Spartanburg, and yes, he's been given a pass for so long because of his roots. Had he been someone from outside of this region, he would've been questioned a lot sooner and more than likely sold the team by now.



I'll believe what you said when we actually have someone not from NC running the joint. Until then, its lip service. People defend mediocrity and losing because the CEO is a native. People give him blind trust and hope because he's someone they relate to or they cant fathom him ripping them off. Put someone they know nothing about or heard of at CEO of the Panthers and the perception and trust changes. If it werent a big deal, people wouldnt worry about succession plans and who's taking over. But they do, very much so.


Your dislike for him colors your perspective to the point you have no credibility. Maybe in your small corner of the world that is how you see it, but I can assure that the vast majority of fans do not think like you do. Succession plans are about whether we will have a team here and who will make decisions and it should be a huge concern for Panther fans given that it has been many years since the heart transplant and with each passing year the odds of survivorship go down. Whether the new owner is local or not is important only as to whether they will want to move the team somewhere else with no loyalty to this area.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

This team was held hostage by the thought of what happened with the Hornets. Well played Johnny Billionaire.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:35 AM

Your dislike for him colors your perspective to the point you have no credibility. Maybe in your small corner of the world that is how you see it, but I can assure that the vast majority of fans do not think like you do. Succession plans are about whether we will have a team here and who will make decisions and it should be a huge concern for Panther fans given that it has been many years since the heart transplant and with each passing year the odds of survivorship go down. Whether the new owner is local or not is important only as to whether they will want to move the team somewhere else with no loyalty to this area.


In one sentence you dont care who or where the owner is from, in the next you're concerned if he's "loyal to this area". You're not gonna convince me people in this market are not invested into the identity and symbolism of our pro sports owner. When given the choice, they have pushed for local ownership everytime. Being "one of us" is very important, moreso than whether you can get the job done and if you win or not.