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#31 Delhommey

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:27 PM

I take back everything I said about us keeping Rivera cause JR was afraid of eating 2 years of Ron's contract and that JR went with Shula cause he'd be easy to boot next year.

I was wrong, wrong, wrong.



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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

Once the decision was made to keep Rivera (which I think was the right call) would it make sense to offer anything other than a 1 year contract?

don't offer up any logic or common sense. Panther fans don't care.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:38 PM

I'm not surprised by that...everyone knows Rivera is in a make or break year. The fact that no one wanted to come and rot in Carolina for one year is pretty self-explanatory. Hell we could see some of the same names surface next year when (but hopefully if) the entire coaching staff gets replaced.


...Riv is really handicapped at being able to get descent coaches...the odds are really stacked against him....

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:39 PM

This is precisely why these ultimatum years are a bad idea. Nobody thinks you have a chance, except for the existing staff that has their own asses in the sling. So, we end up get what's left after Chud picked over this staff and we are supposed to make the playoffs with whats left. Perhaps 9-7 isn't too far fetched, not that it will be enough to save his job.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

This is precisely why these ultimatum years are a bad idea. Nobody thinks you have a chance, except for the existing staff that has their own asses in the sling. So, we end up get what's left after Chud picked over this staff and we are supposed to make the playoffs with whats left. Perhaps 9-7 isn't too far fetched, not that it will be enough to save his job.

agreed.

i can understand giving him another year to prove himself, but it really makes a bad situation worse or at least more difficult.

it can pay off, but the odds, which were stacked in your favor, are much greater. there is no room for error at all. people without any options hang on for dear life while those with options understandably bail not wanting to go down with what is very likely a sinking ship.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

Once the decision was made to keep Rivera (which I think was the right call) would it make sense to offer anything other than a 1 year contract?


It certainly tells you how much ownership believes in Ron Rivera.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

This shouldn't surprise anyone; we all know that RR is basically in a lame duck situation.


Nah. If we make the playoffs Rivera will be retained, and with good reason. Our 2010 team was the worst of teams that been given the number 1 pick recently. This year's KC and last year's Colts would have had a field day with our 2010 team. If in year 3 he makes the playoffs then he's done everything expected of him and more. 3 years is the standard of expectations with coaches and QBs, and is a much faster rebuilding process than most teams deal with (see Oakland, St Louis, Arizona, etc). He'd have shown progression every year and built a playoff team.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

This is precisely why these ultimatum years are a bad idea. Nobody thinks you have a chance, except for the existing staff that has their own asses in the sling. So, we end up get what's left after Chud picked over this staff and we are supposed to make the playoffs with whats left. Perhaps 9-7 isn't too far fetched, not that it will be enough to save his job.


Well if the players busted their tails at the end of last year to keep Rivera, they'll do it again all next year and make up for the lack of exceptional positional coaches. We were a young team learning, but in year 3 these guys know what it takes to win and don't need their hands held to do it.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:44 PM

I don't see why it makes JR cheap for not throwing out 3 year deals to people that may not be here after one year.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

We need a rebrand to erase this losing culture. Hornets is available.



Nah. I like the Panthers. We just need a new owner who can put the right people in place.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:10 PM

I don't think JR is a cheap owner, he is just cheap...at first but his spending isn't an issue to me. I also think keeping Rivera was the wrong move for this very reason. Gettleman wants his own coaching staff. But the simple reason I can't stand JR is he fails to put the right poeple in place and is now failing at letting Gettleman do his job properly. JR is a meddling owner, maybe not as outright as some but I find it extremeley hard to believe Gettleman wants Rivera and co. as his coaching staff. Why give them another year? Too see if he can do it? To keep stability, stability in what exactly? How is offering one year contracts to work with Rivera and hiring within out of no choice a sign of stability? I understand the one year contracts totally, it would be stupid to give a coach a longer contract when this is a make or break year for Rivera and the FO not having any faith in him. My thing is I think I have seen all I need to of Rivera, and I feel the norm of this FO holding on too long will once again take place. JR is failing at putting this team in a position to win.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

This organization is pathetic.



Yup

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

JR's decision to keep Rivera hampered our chances of getting a good OC. That's the whole point and yes I agree that this organization is pathetic. Keeping Rivera only made our situation worse.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

I don't see why it makes JR cheap for not throwing out 3 year deals to people that may not be here after one year.


JR, once again, is hedging his bets rather than going all in to win.

Wonder why we keep getting coaches that punt with two minutes left to go down by 6? Cause that's what their owner wants.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:27 PM

Maybe we'll finally have a playoff caliber team by the time Cam's 35


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