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How much better is cam vs. the 3-4 than the 4-3?


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#1 rayzor

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

i bet you thought i had an answer...but i don't. it's a question.

is cam really better against 3-4 defenses? how much better is he against them than 4-3?

it just seems interesting to me that the saints are wanting to make a move to the 3-4 and i wonder if they are seeing something that i'm not.

thanks.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:13 PM

???? Somebody look up his record...I'm lazy.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:15 PM

my laziness is the reason for this thread.

that and i took my daughter and nephew sledding on an icy hill a little while ago and i think i got a concussion one of the times i flipped.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:18 PM

I know last season, we lost to Dallass and KC. We beat Deadskins and SD.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

why does the saints switching to the 3-4 have to have anything to do with cam newton?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

why does the saints switching to the 3-4 have to have anything to do with cam newton?

because we have to play them twice a year?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

Didn't GB play a 3-4 when we lost to them last year? Cam played well in that game. Does AZ play a 3-4? Denver plays a 4-3 but its a very weird 4-3 because Von is an OLB that is a pass rusher in a 4-3. Our Oline forgot to show up that day so Cam got murdered against that D, but again it's an offshoot 4-3, not a 3-4.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:26 PM

Let's see here.

Cam has faced the following 3-4 teams this year:

Dallas
Kansas City
San Diego

So 1-2 for 2012

Did Denver run 3-4 this year?

2011 he faced:

Arizona
Green Bay
Houston

Once again. 1-2 for 2011

2-4 en total. So...his record against 3-4 teams is about as mediocre as his entire record as an NFL QB. Has more to do with the team than him, though.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:27 PM

Meh, these days with so many multiple WR sets, nickel has become most teams' base package. Too much is made about 4-3 vs. 3-4 when you have 5 DBs in the game for so many defensive snaps.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:30 PM

Let's see here.

Cam has faced the following 3-4 teams this year:

Dallas
Kansas City
San Diego

So 1-2 for 2012

Did Denver run 3-4 this year?

2011 he faced:

Arizona
Green Bay
Houston

Once again. 1-2 for 2011

2-4 en total. So...his record against 3-4 teams is about as mediocre as his entire record as an NFL QB. Has more to do with the team than him, though.


The D choked and the refs fuged us against Dallas. We choked against KC. Smashed on San Diego. poo the bed against Denver, choked against AZ and GB last year, I don't remember the HOU game clearly.

I'd like to see Cam's stats in those games though. I think he played well individually.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:30 PM

i'd be very surprised if the stains are switching to the 3-4 solely to stop Cam

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:33 PM

i'd be very surprised if the stains are switching to the 3-4 solely to stop Cam


this.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

21/37, 233 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT - Dallas

19/33, 231 YDS, 2 TD - SD

15/27, 232 YDS, 3 TD - KC


28/46, 432 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INT - GB

13/23, 149 YDS, 2 TD - Hou

24/37, 422 YDS, 2 TD, 1 INT - Ari

I think redskins are 3-4 too and he beast mode against them twice

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

Let's see here.

Cam has faced the following 3-4 teams this year:

Dallas
Kansas City
San Diego

So 1-2 for 2012

Did Denver run 3-4 this year?

2011 he faced:

Arizona
Green Bay
Houston

Once again. 1-2 for 2011

2-4 en total. So...his record against 3-4 teams is about as mediocre as his entire record as an NFL QB. Has more to do with the team than him, though.



We also beat Washington this year and last. Denver runs a 4-3 base. We're 50% against 3-4. Bet the % is lower against 4-3's. But we've played more of those teams.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

I knew I was missing somebody. Gracias.

So...nothing too conclusive, IMO. I think the 3-4 would be more susceptible to the power run game, though. If we get that going next year, the Saints will be easy pickens.


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