Jump to content

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

hepcat

WR's drafted by the Panthers since 2002 - the case to draft a WR in round 1?

Recommended Posts

rayzor    10,300

Then why the hell were you arguing that you didn't want Patterson because it would take him 2 years to adjust?

lol

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Montsta    15,184

Patterson reminds me of Cam two years ago. Has all the tools to be a star but is still a bit raw and kind of an unknown. I say no, but I said no to Cam as well so...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
rayzor    10,300

Man FU I'm at work I'm not going back 10 years looking all that up. 3 examples Roddy White, Robert Mechem and Greg Jennings. And I'm not taking a shot at your Love child Patterson with this. I'm just saying lets not make a judgement on our young wr until after 3 years.

lol come on...you said it was a fact. i'm waiting for the facts.

got nothing to do with patterson, either.

and i'll throw in randy moss, larry fitzgerald, calvin johnson, andre johnson, victor cruz, brandon marshall, dez bryant, aj green, julio jones, plaxico burress, rob gronkowski, jimmy graham, greg jennings, mike wallace, santonio holmes, marques colston, as guys who hit it in their first two years. many of those guys...maybe half...hit it their rookie year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites




rayzor    10,300

Patterson reminds me of Cam two years ago. Has all the tools to be a star but is still a bit raw and kind of an unknown. I say no, but I said no to Cam as well so...

agreed, but some people tend to think that you can't compare the two. i don't know if it's because it's harder to make it as a WR? but apparently it's an unfair comparison.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
top dawg    8,650

prove it.

prove that there is a significant difference between year one, two, and three.

look at the number of active WRs that have hit 1000 yards and see when they hit it the first time. more hit it in year two than in year three.

i'll throw this out there: http://www.thebiglea...-breakout-myth/

i'll also throw out what smitty said:

guys do improve as time goes on, but i'm looking forward to showing the significant difference between guys who make an impact in their first three years.

Nice little piece, rayzor. Let's wait and see what kind of mystical statistical menagerie that kkl comes up with to support his yearly position against drafting a WR that's actually worth more than a ham sandwich.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
koolkatluke    474

Then why the hell were you arguing that you didn't want Patterson because it would take him 2 years to adjust?

Because I want our 1st round pick to have a instant impact. The last 2 years we had a QB with the greatest rookie season ever and a LB who lead the league in tackles. I want to keep that going if we can. And no matter what Rayzor says Patterson isn't a can't miss prospect. If he was there would be no chance he would make it out the top 5 and we wouldn't even be discussing if we can get him. He has ? And is a risky pick at 14. That's what I was "arguing".

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
koolkatluke    474

Patterson reminds me of Cam two years ago. Has all the tools to be a star but is still a bit raw and kind of an unknown. I say no, but I said no to Cam as well so...

Does he remind you of another Wr? Just asking.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
koolkatluke    474

lol come on...you said it was a fact. i'm waiting for the facts.

got nothing to do with patterson, either.

and i'll throw in randy moss, larry fitzgerald, calvin johnson, andre johnson, victor cruz, brandon marshall, dez bryant, aj green, julio jones, plaxico burress, rob gronkowski, jimmy graham, greg jennings, mike wallace, santonio holmes, marques colston, as guys who hit it in their first two years. many of those guys...maybe half...hit it their rookie year.

You might want to check your list Holmes, Jennings didn't blow up until their 3rd year and Plax best year in his Career was his 3rd year. Plus I didn't know we were adding TE.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
koolkatluke    474

Nice little piece, rayzor. Let's wait and see what kind of mystical statistical menagerie that kkl comes up with to support his yearly position against drafting a WR that's actually worth more than a ham sandwich.

I was right last year about Stephen Hill. Just saying.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Montsta    15,184

Does he remind you of another Wr? Just asking.

I don't want to compare him to another WR because if I do it automatically means I think he'll end up like said WR, good or bad, and I don't want that. Like I said before, I know another player that was a beast at a D1 school and then dropped down to a D2 school because of off field issues (real or perceived) and we ended up picking him one overall and he's changed the franchise. I was opposed to it at the time, and have gladly eaten crow a million times. I didn't want him but got behind him the second Goodell called his name. Ill do the same for Patterson if we take him. I'm jaded against WR's drafted here. Jarrett broke my heart. I thought he would be a number one easy.

I don't pretend to be a college ball expert, but it seems we could go Oline or DT in the first and get D'er'ric'k Rodgers in the second and have a similar player to Patterson. Don't listen to me though, I draft by what guys I think will look cool on Madden.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
rayzor    10,300

You might want to check your list Holmes, Jennings didn't blow up until their 3rd year and Plax best year in his Career was his 3rd year. Plus I didn't know we were adding TE.

holmes had 942 and 8 TDs his second year.

jennings had 920 yards and 12 TDs his second year.

burress had 1008 yards and 6 TDs his 2nd year.

i'm not talking about their best year, but i am talking about the imact they had. i don't know what kind of crazy standards you're using, but i'd consider that an impact.

and i'd hardly consider gronk and graham TEs. sure, that's their position but their primary function in the offense is as a receiver.

btw.....i have never said patterson is a "can't miss" prospect. i have said repeatedly he's a "swing for the fences" prospect. i don't consider really any but a very small handful of any draft to be "can't miss" prospects.

  • Pie 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

×