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WR's drafted by the Panthers since 2002 - the case to draft a WR in round 1?

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agreed, and i'm not buying that 3 year break out stuff either. more players with 1000 yard seasons got their first one in year two than in year three and there's not a whole lot of seperation between the number of year three guys getting 1000 yards vs. year one guys...esp. now when the pro game is passing as much as the college game and more is required of the WRs coming out early, just like with the QBs, and more is coming from them earlier as well.

WRs coming into the game are more prepared for the pass heavy nature of the pro game than really there has been in a long time.

So your love for WR makes you ignore the facts. Ok

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So your love for WR makes you ignore the facts. Ok

facts? what facts are you talking about?

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facts? what facts are you talking about?

It a statiscal fact that there is a 3 year adjustment period for WR. Plain and Simple just using the 1st 2 rounds of Wr's drafted in the last 10 years. It takes time for them to reach their full potential. So lets not make a judgement on all the guys on the roster just yet.

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It a statiscal fact that there is a 3 year adjustment period for WR. Plain and Simple just using the 1st 2 rounds of Wr's drafted in the last 10 years. It takes time for them to reach their full potential. So lets not make a judgement on all the guys on the roster just yet.

prove it.

prove that there is a significant difference between year one, two, and three.

look at the number of active WRs that have hit 1000 yards and see when they hit it the first time. more hit it in year two than in year three.

i'll throw this out there: http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/09/23/busting-the-third-year-wide-receiver-breakout-myth/

i'll also throw out what smitty said:

Carolina receiver Steve Smith told me even though he had his first dominant season in his third year, he said that's because it was the first year he got to play offense after spending two seasons on special teams. He said it had nothing to do with his service time in the league.

"People are looking for a reason or looking to cling on to something," Smith said. "I think that's a myth. If you have a good player and a baller there, that's going to happen, no matter what year it is."

guys do improve as time goes on, but i'm looking forward to showing the significant difference between guys who make an impact in their first three years.

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It a statiscal fact that there is a 3 year adjustment period for WR. Plain and Simple just using the 1st 2 rounds of Wr's drafted in the last 10 years. It takes time for them to reach their full potential. So lets not make a judgement on all the guys on the roster just yet.

Then why the hell were you arguing that you didn't want Patterson because it would take him 2 years to adjust?

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prove it.

prove that there is a significant difference between year one, two, and three.

look at the number of active WRs that have hit 1000 yards and see when they hit it the first time. more hit it in year two than in year three.

i'll throw this out there: http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/09/23/busting-the-third-year-wide-receiver-breakout-myth/

i'll also throw out what smitty said:

guys do improve as time goes on, but i'm looking forward to showing the significant difference between guys who make an impact in their first three years.

Man FU I'm at work I'm not going back 10 years looking all that up. 3 examples Roddy White, Robert Mechem and Greg Jennings. And I'm not taking a shot at your Love child Patterson with this. I'm just saying lets not make a judgement on our young wr until after 3 years.

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Then why the hell were you arguing that you didn't want Patterson because it would take him 2 years to adjust?

lol

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Patterson reminds me of Cam two years ago. Has all the tools to be a star but is still a bit raw and kind of an unknown. I say no, but I said no to Cam as well so...

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Man FU I'm at work I'm not going back 10 years looking all that up. 3 examples Roddy White, Robert Mechem and Greg Jennings. And I'm not taking a shot at your Love child Patterson with this. I'm just saying lets not make a judgement on our young wr until after 3 years.

lol come on...you said it was a fact. i'm waiting for the facts.

got nothing to do with patterson, either.

and i'll throw in randy moss, larry fitzgerald, calvin johnson, andre johnson, victor cruz, brandon marshall, dez bryant, aj green, julio jones, plaxico burress, rob gronkowski, jimmy graham, greg jennings, mike wallace, santonio holmes, marques colston, as guys who hit it in their first two years. many of those guys...maybe half...hit it their rookie year.

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Patterson reminds me of Cam two years ago. Has all the tools to be a star but is still a bit raw and kind of an unknown. I say no, but I said no to Cam as well so...

agreed, but some people tend to think that you can't compare the two. i don't know if it's because it's harder to make it as a WR? but apparently it's an unfair comparison.

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prove it.

prove that there is a significant difference between year one, two, and three.

look at the number of active WRs that have hit 1000 yards and see when they hit it the first time. more hit it in year two than in year three.

i'll throw this out there: http://www.thebiglea...-breakout-myth/

i'll also throw out what smitty said:

guys do improve as time goes on, but i'm looking forward to showing the significant difference between guys who make an impact in their first three years.

Nice little piece, rayzor. Let's wait and see what kind of mystical statistical menagerie that kkl comes up with to support his yearly position against drafting a WR that's actually worth more than a ham sandwich.

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Then why the hell were you arguing that you didn't want Patterson because it would take him 2 years to adjust?

Because I want our 1st round pick to have a instant impact. The last 2 years we had a QB with the greatest rookie season ever and a LB who lead the league in tackles. I want to keep that going if we can. And no matter what Rayzor says Patterson isn't a can't miss prospect. If he was there would be no chance he would make it out the top 5 and we wouldn't even be discussing if we can get him. He has ? And is a risky pick at 14. That's what I was "arguing".

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