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#31 thefuzz

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

academic scholarships should be about rewarding those who are interested in pursuing higher education but cannot afford it.

If you are a valedictorian and you parents make $500k you are not eligible for an academic scholarship...regardless of race.



I couldn't disagree more. If you earned it you earned it.

Should Andrew Luck gotten an athletic scholarship?

Friend of mine got a "full ride" her parents were doctors. Did she not earn it?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:09 AM

I couldn't disagree more. If you earned it you earned it.

Should Andrew Luck gotten an athletic scholarship?

Friend of mine got a "full ride" her parents were doctors. Did she not earn it?


She earned the opportunity for a college education and she was lucky enough that her parents could afford to send her there. That is all.

There was someone else that could have benefited more from having a "full ride "scholarship than your friend.

#33 Panthro

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:14 AM

I'm biased cause I got one (my parents certainly didn't make 500K, but we weren't high need by any stretch), but some states like SC need to fight to keep smart kids in state and prevent massive brain drain.



So you would have still gone to college regardless. Not everyone can go to Harvard....there is already a brain drain. Not sure how this would escalate it.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:19 AM

She earned the opportunity for a college education and she was lucky enough that her parents could afford to send her there. That is all.

There was someone else that could have benefited more from having a "full ride "scholarship than your friend.



What if she didn't want to accept money from her parents?

What if her parents thought that she should pay her way like they did?

Seems just like a democrat to punish the folks that are doing better than others.

I will ask you again, should Andrew Luck have gotten a scholarship?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:23 AM

They should go to the most qualified candidate regardless of race status or otherwise.....

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:24 AM

According to Panthro...no

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:26 AM

Remind me: Who was the singer whose son got a full scholarship? We had a thread on that here too.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

What if she didn't want to accept money from her parents?

What if her parents thought that she should pay her way like they did?

Seems just like a democrat to punish the folks that are doing better than others.

I will ask you again, should Andrew Luck have gotten a scholarship?


I can see your point as they are 18 and their income is not necessarily related to their parents. That is the fallacy of my position.

I do like how Georgia provides a college education to all students who perform at a certain level.

Or perhaps there should be some stipulations in return for the scholarship.

If you friend received a full ride from a state institution perhaps they should tie that money to certain responsibilities after graduation.

#39 Panthro

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

They should go to the most qualified candidate regardless of race status or otherwise.....

Well that is just as ridiculous as basing solely on need.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

http://www.newser.co...diddys-kid.html

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

is the intent of scholarships to reward people for hard work or to provide opportunities for people and lift society at large?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:31 AM

Providing opportunites for people and lifting society at large doesn't have to be race-based.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:33 AM

Providing opportunites for people and lifting society at large doesn't have to be race-based.


i didn't say it did... I was curious what people thought.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:33 AM

It should be based on the household income, not the color of the skin. Individuals are programmed to think someone is black when they hear "underprivileged". There are more whites living in poverty in the south than any other based on the population percentages

#45 Panthro

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:34 AM

Nope but it should be need based.

This is just another way that republicans want to keep the income gap growing


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