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I just spent the last hour calculating how many people are in hell according to establishment christian theology


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#31 cookinwithgas

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

55 billion people burning in hell, but I KNOW my cute little kitty is up in kitty heaven now

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:12 PM

Your kitty is a grease spot on the road. Nothing more.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:12 PM

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

who's making light of it? 57B ppl in hell is pretty dark. it raises a lot of serious theological implications. i'm sure you can see that



That, and the Christian God is omnipotent and all-knowing, so He knew that that would all end up in Hell. Nice guy huh?

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:09 PM

That, and the Christian God is omnipotent and all-knowing, so He knew that that would all end up in Hell. Nice guy huh?


the christian response would be that without free will man is just an automaton and that free will is the greatest act of love god could give. i'm not sure that's sufficient, as any god with any wisdom would know that varying factors would contribute to the fall of at least one man. why raise the stakes that high at all?

it just doesn't make sense

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:19 PM

i just can't see how free will and all-knowing can coexist. Either he knows that you will go to hell or he doesn't. they can't have it both ways.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:38 PM

God may know. it's the humans who can't predict the future.

look how many people died young due to a lack of medicine or advancement of tech etc.

our eyes are on the front of our face for a reason. to look ahead. we can wring our hands over things we have no control over that is in the past of find a way to make it better in the future.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:29 AM

i just can't see how free will and all-knowing can coexist. Either he knows that you will go to hell or he doesn't. they can't have it both ways.

Theological fatalism, it's one of my favorite arguments because I've never heard it even a little bit successfully argued against.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

What are the differences biblically between angels and humans?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:20 AM

God may know. it's the humans who can't predict the future.

look how many people died young due to a lack of medicine or advancement of tech etc.

our eyes are on the front of our face for a reason. to look ahead. we can wring our hands over things we have no control over that is in the past of find a way to make it better in the future.


Some might even say our eyes evolved that way because we eat other animals


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