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#121 BigSyke

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

defense is all about pressure on qb.....the most simple way i can put it.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:35 PM

bpa could be a WR.


I suppose it could be but many boards don't have any receivers ranked until around 20.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

Guard is never BPA in the 1st.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:45 PM

I suppose it could be but many boards don't have any receivers ranked until around 20.

big boards generally rank players on a scale of 1-100 . I'd rather have a 90 Receiver than a 95 Guard all day every day.

"BPA" should be changed to "BVA"-best value available vs best player available.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:55 PM

I suppose it could be but many boards don't have any receivers ranked until around 20.


many draftniks boards maybe, but we dont know how NFL teams boards look. even then some have 2 WRs as top 20 bpa's.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:40 PM

You want a 6'2 OT?


Thought he was taller my b

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 06:56 PM

many draftniks boards maybe, but we dont know how NFL teams boards look. even then some have 2 WRs as top 20 bpa's.

true

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:32 PM

Thought he was taller my b


He moves really well though and may be more athletic than Warmack. If we had a lower pick, I'd be all over Cooper

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

bpa could be a WR.


Vaccaro is obviously the BPA at 14 if he's there

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:38 PM

Vaccaro is obviously the BPA at 14 if he's there

maybe, or it could be a WR, DT,or OT. we dont know, my sleeper pick for 14 is Hopkins.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:03 PM

maybe, or it could be a WR, DT,or OT. we dont know, my sleeper pick for 14 is Hopkins.


Hopkins? I think that'll be a "reach". I would really be surprise to see Hopkins land in the top 20.
I think we can sit right where we're at in the 2nd round (44), and still able to grab Hopkins there.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:39 PM

Hopkins? I think that'll be a "reach". I would really be surprise to see Hopkins land in the top 20.
I think we can sit right where we're at in the 2nd round (44), and still able to grab Hopkins there.

6`1 215 pound WR that has produced and can run the entire route tree. he is already rising and the last 3 videos on panthers.com involve him.yeah i know its because they had their pro day last week,and mike craft loves him.

the previous offseason was the 1st time he went through football work outs because he played bball the other 2 years and you can tell by the way he exploded this past season.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:47 PM

Guard is never BPA in the 1st.


Not a fan of generalizing.

In the 94 draft, wide receivers Charles Johnson and Johnnie Morton were both taken in the first round. Larry Allen was taken in the second. Knowing what you know now, who would you have taken?

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:07 PM

I'll make another supposed generalization and say that attacking generalizing with hindsight is never going to win any minds.

Best Player Available is a misnomer. It would more accurately reflect the way teams actually approach the draft if meant Best Prospect Available, as it factors in all the variables when teams construct a big board. Guards are never BPA in the first, because of these additional variables.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:23 PM

I'll make another supposed generalization and say that attacking generalizing with hindsight is never going to win any minds.

Best Player Available is a misnomer. It would more accurately reflect the way teams actually approach the draft if meant Best Prospect Available, as it factors in all the variables when teams construct a big board. Guards are never BPA in the first, because of these additional variables.


Are you dead certain you can name 32 players better than, say, Chance Warmack?

Pretty much nobody goes pure BPA. For example, going purely on grades the Panthers might have Geno Smith rated higher than Chance Warmack, but given the current roster, it would make no sense to draft Smith over Warmack.

When the team creates its draft board, it will take need (and lack of need) into account, and will set their priorities accordingly. You just don't wanna be in a position where you're a slave to it because it limits your options.

Bottom Line: Draft boards are pretty much never built on player ratings alone. Ours is no exception.


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